Celebrating "Fat Tuesday" When did it start?

American Catholic ^ | Feb 21 th,2004

[The_Reader_David]

Go and study the history of the early Church, including how the canon of Scripture was actually fixed. My Latin bretheren and I disagree on where the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church is to be found since the 11th century, they claiming those in communion with the Bishop of Rome constitute it, and I and all other Orthodox holding that the other four ancient Patriarchates and those in communion with them have maintained the faith once delivered to the saints and are indeed the Mystical Body of Christ. Nonetheless, using the word as it was used by St. Ignatius of Antioch, it was indeed he katholike ekklesia, which wrote the New Testament and codified the canon of Scripture.

Really, you should pick up Jaroslav Pelikan's history of the Church (don't worry, he was a Lutheran when he wrote it, though he converted to Holy Orthodoxy subsequently). Facts are facts, and while reading Holy Scripture is most edifying, you can't know the history of the Church after the portion of the lives of the Holy Apostles recorded in the Acts and the Epistles by reading Holy Scripture.

[LiteKeeper]

show me in the Bible where you are Commanded to lie about another's Faith.

Why is a disagreement over history and doctrine called a "lie?" I am simply trying to establish the facts, and you throw stones. Who is in the wrong here? We have different presuppositions: I come from the historical position of sola scriptura - and you don't. Fair enough. Now let's move on to other discussions.

[Catholicguy]

The Original Heresiarch, Martin Luther, at least was honest enough to acknowledge it is only due to the Catholic Church you even have the New testament.

We are obliged to yield manythings to the Papists - that they possess the word of God which we received from them, otherwise we should have known nothing about it" (Commnetary on St. john, ch 16.

WE Catholics wrote the text. We Catholics know what it menas. We Catholics have authority to explain what it means.

Have a nice day.

[Catholicguy]

Really, you should pick up Jaroslav Pelikan's history of the Church (don't worry, he was a Lutheran when he wrote it, though he converted to Holy Orthodoxy subsequently).

I was tempted to say "He is almost all the way home," but I won't :)

Now, how was that for an example of paralepsis so appropriate to our political season in America?

Remember me in your prayers, David.

[LiteKeeper]

WE Catholics wrote the text.

Please identify the "Catholic" authors who wrote the Bible.

Thank you

[Catholicguy]

You need to purchase a new Bible. All the good ones publish the names of the authors of The New Testament Texts.

[LiteKeeper]

I know all the authors' names. I am just having a hard time identifying which ones are the Roman Catholics. I see one Roman citizen - Paul...but the affiliations of the rest are alluding me.

Please assist.

[RckyRaCoCo]

Fat Tuesday in Detroit area

mmmmmmmmmmm...Paczki(pronounced POONCH-ki”)Day