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To: 1stFreedom
Obviously you willfully reject the biblical evidence. I'll bet you if we took this issue to an atheist, who has no particular leaning either way, and give him the history of the two belives, he would not agree with justification by faith alone.

That same person would believe that the Resurrection was ludicrous too.

16 posted on 02/24/2004 4:33:49 PM PST by Wrigley (Swarm members: Watch your back.)
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To: Wrigley
>>That same person would believe that the Resurrection was ludicrous too.

I'm not saying the person would believe any of it. But the person could give a summary of what the scriptures say. If an athiests with some intelligence (oxymoron?) and no bias either way, could examine the scriptural evidence, I highly doubt he'd say the bible says we are justified by faith alone.

My point is that you have a filter which won't allow you to accept the evidence of James, the fact that "sola fide" is unscriptural, and that it was a doctrine of man and not God.

I don't have this filter. Show me where scripture says we are justified by Grace ALONE/ONLY and I'll buy into "sola fide"

Finally, the works that are discussed in most of the passages are actually works of the Jewish laws. Works of charity are not at issue. In fact, James points out that works of charity are in fact part of justification.

25 posted on 02/24/2004 6:35:59 PM PST by 1stFreedom
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