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To: ChevyZ28
And one other thing. Your assumption that the vast majority of couples stay together because of 'unconditional love' is ridiculous. The majority of couples who stay married, row, fight, cheat, lie, beg, curse, flatter and struggle through their marriages but somehow they keep it together. They realise that out of love for God and love for the happiness of their kids they have to try and make the best of it and put up with each other's crap. What ever happened to honor and self-sacrifice and doing the right thing despite your own selfish urges?

Saying the Rosary is fine but these people who come up with new devotions (like fasting) and Rosary tag-ons every month concern me. Just change your kid's diapers and put the trash out without moaning about it and sometimes without being asked. Stop picking your feet in bed, if you know your partner hates that. Forget buying roses on Valentine's day, just clean the kitchen floor or the cooker once in a while or come home early and cook dinner for HER. When she moans at you resist the urge to argue, Women like to moan, just TAKE IT LIKE A MAN.

Heck, you met her mother before you married her didn't you? Given she spent over 20 years growing up with the old dragon, what on earth made you think she would turn out much different?

There are plenty of sacrifices you can make everyday in marriage without going searching for extra devotions. They ain't pretty, you can't sing them in Latin, but they are FAR more effective.
81 posted on 03/29/2004 7:50:08 AM PST by Mike Duke
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To: Mike Duke
I did not say they people stay together because of unconditional love, I said he wasn't loving unconditionally. Which admit it or not, is required for you to be able to put up with someone's little annoying habits, and all of the things they say and do that hurt you.
I don't know about this rosary stuff, I attend a Church of Christ. As far as the fasting thing goes, our preacher once said that if you didn't care about an issue enough to fast about it and turn all of your focus completely over to the Lord and seeking his guidance then you didn't really want it. I do admire the woman for wanting to uphold the vows she has taken, God will reward her for her devotion. I can't help but feel great sympathy for her, I know her heart must be breaking. However, you can not possibly believe the happiness of the children or this woman is being provided for when the two are constantly arguing, and he absolutely refuses to come home and be the man he should be. I can see her trying for a while, but doesn't it sooner or later become self evident that resistance is futile? As I said, you can not force someone do the things they should do, and you can not force someone to feel what they do not feel and probably have already made their mind up they don't want to feel.

Self sacrifice comes down to your unconditional love for someone, that no matter how they may err, you will love them and stay with them no matter what. Yes, sometimes you have to "take certain things like a man" Men always get the last word anyway,"Yes Ma'am!"

My wife and I have a very good relationship. No, neither of us are perfect. I can not imagine my life without her. She is my sun in the morning and my moon at night. She has said and done things that hurt me, but then I have done the same to her as well. I could not look her or my daughter in the face and say I don't love you anymore, or I don't want to live with you anymore. I believe that takes an awfully cold hearted person to do that. Yes, God does love us, He loves unconditionally. If He didn't, He would have dumped us a long time ago.
82 posted on 03/29/2004 9:45:20 AM PST by ChevyZ28 (We can make the plans of our heart, but the final out come is in God's hands.)
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