It May Not Be Realized Yet

San Francisco Faith ^ | STEPHEN FRANKINI

[Viva Christo Rey]

We're on the same page. Yes, but isn't it amazing the absolute filth, blasphemy and perversion against Our Lord and Our Lady and the TRUE Church that can be posted in this forum, and when one rightly and with justifiable anger replies, one gets one head lopped off for being "politically incorrect"!

[Viva Christo Rey]

Then be advised that I will ask, again, that it (the naked image of Christ) be removed.

AS WILL I!!!

[Romulus]

That's a truly disgusting suggestion.

To do so would be unscriptural and -- for that, as well as for other reasons -- theologically disordered. Mary and Joseph's marriage of unreserved mutual gift of self did not require a sexual dimension to be fully authentic.

The images you propose would convey nothing but the trivial and negligible point that from time to time human nature requires all of us to be naked. The fact that Mary and Joseph in their humanity were not exempt from these exigencies is not theologically meaningful. Being fully human, Our Lord also made himself subject to these demands, but there too his nakedness is not "interesting" unles it conveys a theological truth, as in the iconography of his infancy, baptism, or yes, crucifixion.

[drstevej]

Taunting a moderator is a quick path to the Outer Darkness.

[Romulus]

Thanks, but I prefer to get my Christian art from people seeking to be conformed to Christ, rather than the other way round.

[Aliska]

No, it was a traditionalist catholic from England and not Michael Davies. One of the channel Islands.

[Romulus]

"Be not afraid"

[Romulus]

AS WILL I!!!

Yet none of you can explain why, nor even has the integrity to be ashamed at that fact.

[Aliska]

It was Piers Compton, "The Broken Cross: Hidden Hand In the Vatican", Channel Islands, Neville Spearman, 1981, p. 72.

[drstevej]

Having been to FR Purgatory five times, I can offer you a few days at my time share. You may need accommodations if you continue to taunt the RM.

[Viva Christo Rey]

It was Piers Compton, "The Broken Cross: Hidden Hand In the Vatican", Channel Islands, Neville Spearman, 1981, p. 72.

Thanks! NOW the name rings a bell!

;-)

[Aliska]

What difference does it make? You both are using the same traditional art of Jesus naked. I know all about art and nakedness, but my rosary pictures show Jesus on the cross with a cloth.

[Romulus]

You think Michelangelo's art is filth and blasphemy?

According to the Catholic Encyclopedia, "A contemporary bestows praise which seems merited, when he says that Michelangelo in all the ninety years of his life never gave any grounds for suspecting the integrity of his moral virtue."

Michelangelo also sculpted David nude, in accordance with scripture. Perhaps it has never occured to you that this confrontation and defeat of the enemy of God's people is a prophecy of the Crucifixion. Well, think about it.

[Aliska]

It is all but impossible to find a used copy of that book. I was amazed that I was able to get it. Should have made notes from it. It just might disappear altogether.

[Admin Moderator]

Having been declined the courtesy of a response, be advised that I intend to re-post the image you deleted, unless you restore it first.

The Religion Moderator is not here 24/7. I removed your post. Do not repost it.

[Romulus]

I removed you post.

Why? Do you deem nudity in art intrinsically obscene? Are you exercising a theological judgment? Or did you just react without thinking and now find yourself having to defend an ill-considered decision?

Please inform me when the Religion Moderator will be on duty, as I intend to make my case to someone with the competence to understand what this debate is about.

[drstevej]

Not a good move.

[Aliska]

Well, think about it.

I am thinking about it. There are lots of passages in the old testament about uncovering someone's nakedness and how it was frowned upon.

When Peter realized Jesus was on the shore, he hastily put his robe on and jumped into the sea. I don't know one way or the other how God views nakedness and naked art. We are conditioned to accept it, but I can certainly live without it.

When you take an art class, they get people to pose naked and I simply would not do that. Maybe I'm a prude, but I never cared for open nakedness, art or otherwise. It is a very private thing imo.

[Romulus]

Is it now forbidden to post images from the Sistine Chapel in the Religion Forum of this Free Republic?

I ask only for information.