Gutting the Gospels: The Sacrilegious Stripping of the Novus Ordo Lectionary

LumenGentleman Apologetics ^ | Jacob Michael

[ninenot]

The 'excisions' from the Gospel (and St Paul's letters) are not real surprising.

And they are accompanied by extreme mis-translations of the Orations (the Opening Prayer and the Prayer after Communion) which are similarly motivated, I think.

[ninenot]

The VII mandated a restoration of the third reading from the Old Testament

If it's 'mandated' it would be a surprise to many in Europe, who never hear this OT reading.

Another "mandate" of VII which was actually a "mandate" from USCC?

[sinkspur]

What is the rotation of scriptures read at a Tridentine Mass?

There is no rotation of Scriptures at a Tridentine Mass.

You will hear the same epistle and Gospel for the Third Sunday of Easter that you heard last year, and the year before that, and that you will hear next year.

There are many Tridentine Mass advocates who seem willing to admit that the cycle of A, B, and C readings, and the addition of a third reading, is an improvement, and they would even be willing to consider the adaptation of more Scripture.

But, they seem to be few in number.

[sinkspur]

Hermann, your #16 on this thread is continuing proof of why I so value your presence on this forum.

The breadth of your knowledge, historical perspective and honesty is unparalleled. Not only Catholics, but all Christians, would benefit from reading your posts.

[sinkspur]

If it's 'mandated' it would be a surprise to many in Europe, who never hear this OT reading.

'Splain. This is news to many, I'm sure.

[ninenot]

Happened to run across this little gem because I have purchased every offering of Chant from Solesmes.

In the "Gregorian Missal" (Novus Ordo edition)the ordo follows the old style: Epistle, Gradual, (Alleluia or Tract), Gospel. Hmmmmm. Same as the TridRite.

So I asked a priest-friend howcummizzat? And he replied that it was his observation that in Europe the OT reading is simply not used.

I realize that this is not a direct answer to your question, but I need another 30-60 minutes to go look up the specific citations re the OT reading. Can't do it right now.

[sinkspur]

So I asked a priest-friend howcummizzat? And he replied that it was his observation that in Europe the OT reading is simply not used.

Every Papal Mass that I've ever observed has two readings (with a Reponsorial) and the Gospel.

I'm going to the GIRM which, I suspect, requires the OT reading.

[Arguss]

Though I haven't done it recently, I was a sometimes lector at daily Mass. I remember checking out the reading beforehand once, for grammar and hard words, and one of the readings was the typical verse - skip a few - a few more verses - skip a few more. I remember looking up what was left out and wondered why that would be - they were meaningful verses, and if it was my choice I would include them. But some others were just extraneous, and didn't add or subtract anything.

Just for example I just checked out a reading for May 2: Rev 7:9, 14b -
17. Why would 10 - 14a be left out?
Revelation 7:
9After this I looked and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and in front of the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands.

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left out

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10And they cried out in a loud voice:
   "Salvation belongs to our God,
   who sits on the throne,
   and to the Lamb." 11All the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures. They fell down on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, 12saying:    "Amen!
   Praise and glory
   and wisdom and thanks and honor
   and power and strength
   be to our God for ever and ever.
   Amen!"
13Then one of the elders asked me, "These in white robes--who are they, and where did they come from?"
14I answered, "Sir, you know."

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15And he said, "These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Therefore,
   "they are before the throne of God and serve him day and night in his temple;    and he who sits on the throne will spread his tent over them.     16Never again will they hunger; never again will they thirst.

   The sun will not beat upon them, nor any scorching heat.
    17For the Lamb at the center of the throne will be their shepherd;
       he will lead them to springs of living water.    And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes."

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If I were to make a guess it would be to erase the reference to:
"They fell down on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, 12saying:
   "Amen!
   Praise and glory"

That would't sit too well considering the Church is trying to get us to not even genuflect before The Most High. So maybe there is something to the charge.