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To: dangus
Thanks for the thoughtful reply.

Be confused, instead, as to why people who claim to be men of God will falsely assert that the Pope has claimed impeccability, inerrancy and omniscience, when it plain he has not.

Even this limited claim to inerrancy, that he is inerrant when speaking ex-cathedra, is plenty enought to get worked up about. There are many who hold the written word of God, the Holy Scriptures, as a higher authority. If the Pope, speaking ex-cathedra, says something that contradicts the Bible, then what are we left with? We are left with one of only two options: A: the Pope is not infallible speaking ex-cathedra, or B: the Bible is not inerrant in its original manuscripts. But, if B: is the case, and the Bible does contain errors, then the question becomes what parts are errors and what parts are not, and there is no rational way to achieve a firm answer, so the whole foundation crumbles.

So, then, the only thing that remains is to determine if the Pope, when speaking ex-Cathedra, has ever contradicted scripture.
16 posted on 04/30/2004 9:50:22 AM PDT by FactQuest
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To: FactQuest
So, then, the only thing that remains is to determine if the Pope, when speaking ex-Cathedra, has ever contradicted scripture.

We're waiting ...

17 posted on 04/30/2004 9:53:42 AM PDT by Campion
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To: FactQuest
>>If the Pope, speaking ex-cathedra, says something that contradicts the Bible, then what are we left with? We are left with one of only two options: A: the Pope is not infallible speaking ex-cathedra, or B: the Bible is not inerrant in its original manuscripts. But, if B: is the case, and the Bible does contain errors, then the question becomes what parts are errors and what parts are not, and there is no rational way to achieve a firm answer, so the whole foundation crumbles. <<

Basically what you are saying could be applied to any law of science: If the impossible happened, then the fact that it happened would disprove that it was impossible; therefore, it is not impossible. But the reason it is "impossible" is because Christ promised the Holy Spirit would not allow it to happen.

Papal correctness can not be used to prove Papal infallibility. Papal infallibility can only be used to prove Papal correctness.
19 posted on 04/30/2004 10:03:55 AM PDT by dangus
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