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To: monkfan
Refutation of William Webster's Fundamental Misunderstanding of Development of Doctrine

The Fathers know best Not Mr. Webster!

Mr. Webster's Errors on the Canon Refuted

Windsor Responds to Webster

Webster is a bush league polemicist hack. As an Orthodox, I would expect better from you.

94 posted on 05/05/2004 2:20:27 PM PDT by conservonator (Blank by popular demand)
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To: conservonator
I'm already aware that Webster is Protestant. That the RC don't care for him was a no-brainer. As you are already aware, I'm Orthodox. So... do I need to point out that I'm not a fan of his? The point of the post was not to parade his analysis. I'm more interested in his quotations. Two in particular. One, from the Council and one from a RC historian. However, I did happen to notice that he made some comments that are spot on with what I've read elsewhere on this subject (Orthodox sources). I snipped out that chunk and underlined the relevant parts. I bolded a few things I thought were interesting. In an earlier post, I cited an online Catholic encyclopedia on this subject. Nobody seemed to like that much either. I could cite an Orthodox source if you like:

http://www.goholycross.org/studies/councils.html

Way down at the bottom...

"***Rome has always prided itself with having popes who only spoke the orthodox and catholic faith. The case of Honorius though, calls this to question. Horonius, in his letter written ex cathedra speaks of only the uncorrupted human nature of Christ without mentioning His "two natures." For this and for his negligence of duty in the face of heresy, in that he should have ascertained that Sergius was teaching one will in Christ, the divine will, Leo II condemned him. Roman maintains the view that the condemnation of Honorius was not truly pronounced because it represented an error in facto dogmatico rather than a mistake in faith or theology."

Anyway, what was being argued was that Honorius was never actually condemned (or even guilty) of heresy. Also being argued, whether or not he stated the heresy ex cathedra. The former is an undeniable historical fact. Even RC historians (some anyway) admit as much. So, that leaves us with the latter. Was it ex cathedra? Sure looks that way.

Now, I fully expect you will disagree. I'd be quite perplexed if you didn't. No self-respecting Roman Catholic would dare to challenge Papal Infallibility. Which is precisely why talk about reunification is nothing more than hot air. EO will never accept RC additions and RC no longer has the option to renounce them.

See my first post (#2) and understand, the author has no idea what he's talking about. There is no "return". Not anymore.
95 posted on 05/05/2004 7:04:24 PM PDT by monkfan (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: conservonator
Your good to wish to defend the faith, but don't waste your breath on the likes of monkfan. He knows quite well the distinction between inerrant and infallible; he feigns ignorance so he can continue to vent his hatred. Leave him alone.
96 posted on 05/05/2004 9:15:06 PM PDT by dangus
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