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To: kansas_goat_roper
It is truly sad that your doctrine of predestination and limited grace comdems so many to hell (yours and mine) brothers and sisters, our children and our mothers and fathers. Without even the hope and love of John 3:16 that God so loved the world and Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

The problem with these words above is that they conflict with the Lord Jesus Christ:

NASB: "You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bare much fruit and that your fruit should remain and that whatever you ask of the Father, he may give to you."

Jesus did the Choosing, not you and me.

And "No one comes to me unless the Father draws him"

And "No one seeks after God, no not one"

No one is going to be able to say "I deserve to go to Heaven because I chose the Lord". The truth is far deeper and God is far better than is implied here.

Take in the Words which Jesus said, and let the Holy Spirit do the teaching. The doctrine that we choose God is not from God.

20 posted on 05/10/2004 7:22:50 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: sr4402
I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT WE OR I CHOOSE GOD. THE HOLY SPIRIT CONVICTS OF SIN, NO WAIT A MINUTE THERE IS NO NEED OF CONVICTION WITH CALVINISM YOUR PREDESTINED. THERE WAS REALLY NO NEED FOR THE ATONEMENT YOUR PREDESTINED. YOUR PART OF THE GOOD OL BOYS CLUB PREDESTINED ELECTED SELECTED. NO NEED TO PREACH THE GOOD NEWS YOUR GOING TO HEAVEN WEATHER YOU WANT TO OR NOT. THE ODDS ARE AGAINST YOU THAT NOT EVERYONE IN YOUR FAMILY IS PART OF THE ELECT, SO I GUESS YOU WON'T BE SEEING THEM IN HEAVEN....RIGHT!
21 posted on 05/10/2004 9:00:59 AM PDT by kansas_goat_roper (GOAT ROPERS NEED LOVE TOO....UP AGAINST THE WALL REDNECK MOTHERS)
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