It looks like the students have a good teacher!
Posted on 05/17/2004 7:27:20 AM PDT by Pyro7480
It looks like the students have a good teacher!
Catholic ping!
I like the Windex spoof.
Bump for Michael Rose and for the faithful Catholic architecture department at Notre Dame.
This sounds like a trivial issue, but actually it will be an important test. Anyone who is thinking of supporting Ave Maria should pay attention to the outcome of this chapel controversy. If they back down, and scrap their plans, and respond to the wishes of their supporters, then there is a chance that something good could come out of this megalomaniac project in Florida. But if they bulldoze ahead with no concern for the objections of the faithful, then they will have made it clear that these "conservatives" like Fessio and Monaghan are essentially no better than the liberal bishops who have destroyed virtually every diocese.
What's surprising is how strikingly modernist the Ave Maria design looks. I truly expected something traditional, even if it wasn't as nice as the truly outstanding design offered by the Notre Dame students.
Honestly, if Ave Maria falls down over this, the design of the students ought to be picked up by someone else. It's not only architecturally beautiful, but it's well thought out in terms of function - including the important function of respecting Catholic tradition in a University trying to dedicate itself to that practice.
=== But if they bulldoze ahead with no concern for the objections of the faithful, then they will have made it clear that
They lack sensibility where order, beauty and comfort are concerned. I can't imagine what the AC costs of a crystal palace in Florida would be.
All glass in Florida...........dumb idea!
I'm not sure I would go that far but, what must be known about Monaghan is his "my way or the highway" mentality. If Monaghan wants Frank Lloyd Wright it doesn't matter much what anyone else wants. I think the University will be solid and conservative but a lot depends on the influence Fr. Fessio has over Monaghan. Monaghan likes to be in charge, nothing wrong with that in business but when religion is involved unless those around him are very good and not dependant on his money, the look of this place will be less than what conservative Catholics had hoped for.
It's so hard to believe that Fr. Fessio would approve of that glass monstrosity.
The architecture of the place isn't what interests me. I just want to know that if my kids go there, their faith won't be diluted or worse, ridiculed by the faculty. It sounds as though the Catholic Faith will be taught unapologetically, so that's all I need to know.
Apparently Tom Monaghan prefers "modernist" over "traditional." Here is a previous example of his taste in church architecture:
Crux News Thomas Monaghan's previous effort in architectural philanthropy
Caption: "The new cathedral (above), known to some as the Nippledome, is decidely modernist in its realization."
I don't think so. That's not what I hear about Ave Maria in its current incarnation up in Michigan.
Fr. Fessio, call Notre Dame asap!
Please provide examples. All I've read is that Ave Maria College in Michigan and Ave Maria University in Florida are about as orthodox Catholic as one will find. If you've heard otherwise, please expound. If you can't, please refrain from making such comments. Thanks.
I know it is not going to be 'traditionalist', but frankly that's not what I'm interested in. The Latin Mass holds no fascination for me. I like Adoration of the Blessed Sacrament, but not all of the devotionals so popular when I was young are particularly important. I want our kids to be taught a timeless Faith, not just a bunch of outward things that can change like fashion.
From what I've read, and I've been a supporter of the University for the last two years, it sounds as though the college will offer Mass with several different worship styles so that not just one style predominates and those who prefer different styles can be accomodated. I like the 'organ music' style with hymns like those sung from the Oxford Hymnal, but I also like the more modern 'Praise and Worship style like that used in Life Teen Masses. As long as we're praising Jesus and preparing to receive His Body and Blood, that's what's important to me.
I've written about this topic many times here on FR. Perhaps you should read some of the relevant threads before you challenge other Freepers.
All I've read is that Ave Maria College in Michigan and Ave Maria University in Florida are about as orthodox Catholic as one will find.
I'm not sure where you have read that, perhaps in their fund-raising literature, but that is not the case. Ave Maria is not nearly as "orthodox Catholic" as Christendom or Thomas Aquinas College or some other small places such as Thomas More and Magdalen in New Hampshire. And since they plan to accept federal student funding, they will soon lose whatever veneer of Catholicism they have had.
Schools that wish to remain Catholic cannot accept money from the federal government. Christendom, for example, refuses all student aid, including loans. Doing so has meant that it has taken them 25 years to reach a student population of only 200 or so. Ave Maria wants to have 6,000 overnight.
Yes, the students' design is so much better than that glass monstrosity!
BTW, one of my graduating seniors is attending Ave Maria in the fall. Great kid! I hope he does well there.
Someone should take the Pizza Boy aside and have a long talk with him. Followed by four years of intensive Catholic studies beginning with Art and Architecture. If he still wants radical ultra-modernism, he should be spanked.
This is a new university with "Uncompromising Catholicity." It will start out slowly in leased buildings and grow eventually to a 2,500 undergrad student body with 500 grad students. It is a Technology, Business and Media university. The curriculum is on the website and they plan to open in 2005.
I've heard that their buildings will be in the California mission style. They will NOT have a green house for a chapel!!
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