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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

Hoyos doesn't get it. The lack of respect is not for traditionalist Catholics, it's for the Catholic faith traditionalists are holding onto. Rome and the bishops want to impose the new religion. Traditionalists ain't buying. No amount of "respect" or friendliness or empty promises by Rome and the bishops will change this.


5 posted on 05/31/2004 10:24:51 PM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: ultima ratio; Canticle_of_Deborah; AskStPhilomena
The lack of respect is not for traditionalist Catholics, it's for the Catholic faith traditionalists are holding onto.

Hear!!! Hear!!!

The 'we-all-pray-to-the-same-god' neo-socialists have convinced the hippie flower children who would be priests of the sixties and seventies that universal ecumenism - like the heathen structure for all faiths planned for Fatima with the blessing of a celebrity who would be pope - is God's plan. Of course, this would require redacting His Holy Word to the contrary.

Perhaps those bishops now suggesting the Bible is not a historical account, coupled with government's incremental denunciation of His Word as 'hate' speech is their means to that end.

What a triumph for international communism if they could succeed in dismantling the single greatest threat to their plan for domination of the world - the Roman Catholic Church. From where I sit their 'useful idiots' are in place to make it happen.

Contemplating this line of thought I am required to ponder how Karol Wojtyla avoided arrest by the communists at a time when those of his station in Poland were being imprisoned.

10 posted on 06/01/2004 3:20:46 AM PDT by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: ultima ratio
Hoyos doesn't get it. The lack of respect is not for traditionalist Catholics, it's for the Catholic faith traditionalists are holding onto. Rome and the bishops want to impose the new religion. Traditionalists ain't buying. No amount of "respect" or friendliness or empty promises by Rome and the bishops will change this.

The Cardinal (at least as paraphrased by the article) makes the following points, among others.

1. The concerns of traditionalist Catholics are "legitimate".

2. The "liturgical sensibilities" of traditionalist Catholics, should therefore be respected.

He is not using the word "respect" in a nebulous, general manner as you try to imply. He is not saying "lets' be nice to those weirdos". Rather he is saying that respect is deserved- based on the legitimacy of the traditionalist liturgical preference, which is a valid one.

Once, just once, try extending your hand and grasping another that is held out to you in peace rather than recoiling in anger. The Cardinal is sympathetic. He is not a stooge, a liberal plant nor part of a plot to destroy SSPX. He desires reconciliation and because of that he directs these words to those who have little time for, nor understanding of SSPX.

He is pulling for the traditionalist cause. Don't spurn his efforts.

31 posted on 06/01/2004 2:47:31 PM PDT by marshmallow
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