Correct, and if we sow enmity with God through our disobedience, then we reap His just punishments. If we are forgiven our sins and the eternal punishment due to them, we still have a debt of temporal punishment that we must expiate, either in this life or the next.
...the "forgiveness" you describe is not mercy
I would think it's fairly merciful of God to not cast us into Hell, but you are free to disagree.
He forgives you but then demands that you pay for your own sin too...that is unless someone prays to some saint to free you
The Blood of Christ does not free you from eternal punishment , but the intervention of some saint does.
Ah ah, there you go, changing the subject. We are talking about temporal punishment remitted in the next life, not eternal punishment. And do you not think it just to be purified of your past offences before entering the Holiest of Holies?
...men that refuse mercy in exchange for a salvation by works.
God became Incarnate and Redeemed us not because of our works, but through His mercy. But this does not mean he will not "render to each man according to his works." Salvation is through faith working in grace.
Suffer a little and then you have earned heaven.
As opposed to "being saved" and living a life as you please and earning heaven? And who said that "suffering a little" is all that is necessary to merit Heaven? You must take up your cross and follow Him to become partakers of eternal life.
But the man that hung on the cross to be the propitiation for the sins of men must be sorry He died in vain.
Because I believe what Christ's Church teaches, His death was in vain? Here's an exercise for you: Find a quote from the first 500 years of Christianity that denies the existence of Purgatory or the idea that souls must be "cleansed" before admittance to Heaven. Here are a few from St. Augustine:
"Temporary punishments are suffered by some in this life only, by others after death, by others both now and then; but all of them before that last and strictest judgment. But of those who suffer temporary punishments after death, all are not doomed to those everlasting pains which are to follow that judgment."
"In the books of the Maccabees we read of sacrifice offered for the dead. Even if it were nowhere at all read in the Old Scriptures, not small is the authority, which in this usage is clear, of the whole Church, namely, that in the prayers of the priest which are offered to the Lord God at His altar, the commendation of the dead has also its place."
A few quotes that support the existence of Purgatory, that is. My editor gave up on this thread a few posts ago.
Show me where that is in the NT
The Blood of Christ does not free you from eternal punishment , but the intervention of some saint does.
Ah ah, there you go, changing the subject. We are talking about temporal punishment remitted in the next life, not eternal punishment. And do you not think it just to be purified of your past offences before entering the Holiest of Holies?
You are talking about God demanding a double payment , once paid for by Christ , not being paid for by your own "suffering" ...His sacrifice is moot.You do not even need Him under this theology .
Seems to me your "sacrament" of confession is pretty useless.
Suffer a little and then you have earned heaven.
As opposed to "being saved" and living a life as you please and earning heaven? And who said that "suffering a little" is all that is necessary to merit Heaven? You must take up your cross and follow Him to become partakers of eternal life
What a foolish slander on the holy Protestants I know. To be honest I see more carnality in the Catholics I know . When you believe that someone can pray for you and get you good time out of purgatory , why bother to live holy lives?
Salvation is a work of God from beginning to end. If one is guilty of antinominism I question his salvation.
The Bible teaches that we are to "confess our sins one to another" (James 5:16); it never mentions confession to a priest. The reason why Protestants "confess their sins one to another" and not to a priest, has nothing to do with the issues of forgiveness of sins but rather individual reconciliation among true believers in Christ. In fact, there is no reason to confess our sins to a priest if Christ’s death on the cross has already paid their full divine penalty.