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Photo Report of Hindu Ritual at Fatima: Pictures of a Desecration
Catholic Family News Special Report ^ | John Vennari

Posted on 06/30/2004 6:04:55 AM PDT by Polycarp IV

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To: ultima ratio; little jeremiah
Spare us the lecture. Their faith is false. They have no business expressing it at a Catholic altar.

Please don't spare us the lecture. I would like to understand the Hindu faith. I would genuinely like to hear an explanation of your religion, so long as you are willing to listen to an explanation of ours. If you understood Catholic Christianity, little jeremiah, you would understand why it is we Catholics are so upset.

Perhaps when you get some time you could start a new thread with a kind of Hinduism 101.

21 posted on 06/30/2004 7:40:33 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: Polycarp IV; *Catholic_list; american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; ...
This should put an end to the debate over whether this event actually occurred.

Amen!

23 posted on 06/30/2004 7:55:44 AM PDT by NYer ("Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for by doing that some have entertained angels.")
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To: Polycarp IV; *Catholic_list; american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; ...
This should put an end to the debate over whether this event actually occurred.

Amen!

24 posted on 06/30/2004 7:56:15 AM PDT by NYer ("Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for by doing that some have entertained angels.")
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To: old and tired
I believe that Our Lady of Fatima could lead these Hindus to Our Lord, but what happened there truly seems an abomination.

Correct statement on both accounts.

I'm not a "miracles" type of guy, I'm really not. The thing about Fatima is that even if you're a scientist, apostate or believer of false gods it truly has the power to convert. It happened recently, in front of thousands of people and has there are no credible detractors. It truly was a miracle in every sense of the word.

A proper way to handle other (false) religions would be to have a process in place to get them there to attend a mass or maybe educate them as to what happened.

Putting their holy men up preaching err shows an unbridled contempt for our triune God. By giving believers of false idolatry any notion that what they're doing is correct we're not loving them, we're hating them in the worst possible way.

25 posted on 06/30/2004 7:57:14 AM PDT by AAABEST (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: Polycarp IV

I think I'm going to hurl.


26 posted on 06/30/2004 8:00:37 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: AAABEST

You've stated my thoughts so much better than I ever could. Thank you.


28 posted on 06/30/2004 8:05:13 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: Unam Sanctam

Fatima ping.

Have the scales fallen from your eyes yet?


29 posted on 06/30/2004 8:05:19 AM PDT by Land of the Irish
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To: Polycarp IV

I am speechless. The people from de Nile almost had me convinced, but here is the smoking gun.


30 posted on 06/30/2004 8:05:29 AM PDT by k omalley
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To: Polycarp IV

Horrendous.


31 posted on 06/30/2004 8:09:58 AM PDT by Fifthmark
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To: Polycarp IV

Oh man, this is enough to make me cry....


32 posted on 06/30/2004 8:31:00 AM PDT by Romish_Papist (USAF Security Forces (1994-2003) Soon to be ANG.)
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To: little jeremiah
I am looking forward to your comments about Hinduism. I have appreciated receiving the articles you post on homosexuality and find your accompanying observations and thoughts,concise yet profound. Quite a feat!!

I am very apprehensive about the motives and the effects of this "event" at Fatima. But I know that if there are misunderstandings and/or errors in the report I need to know what they are. The more facts I have,the more truth I possess the better armed I am to defend Jesus Christ and the Church He established. Thanks for all you do.

33 posted on 06/30/2004 8:48:19 AM PDT by saradippity
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To: old and tired

I'm all for cordial relations with other religions--in a conference room or banquet hall. But not at the altar of a Catholic shrine. This is syncretism and indifferentism at its worst--thanks to the present pope.


34 posted on 06/30/2004 8:51:39 AM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: old and tired

If you believe this, you are part of the problem--you are swallowing the Novus Ordo talking points, hook line and sinker.


35 posted on 06/30/2004 8:55:29 AM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: AAABEST

Thanks for your concern - I can understand why people are upset; I would be upset if someone (for instance) came in front of my home shrine or a temple wearing shoes, turning their back on the altar, or uttered blasphemy. More than upset!

At the same time, there is very little understanding of the real religion of Hinduism, and I would like to remedy this if people don't mind. Not trying to proselytize, but just for informational purposes. Many Hindus don't understand the real meanings of the rituals they perform, or the real nature of the "gods" they worship. In fact, the Bhagavad Gita ("Song of God") condemns the worship of demigods. I will post something later today for those who want to see what the basic teachings of Hinduism are.

I have the greatest respect for sincere Catholics, and find a lot of similarity in many respects. I would never try to "convert" anyone who is sincerely following Jesus' teachings, and only wish them well.


36 posted on 06/30/2004 8:59:35 AM PDT by little jeremiah (http://www.mikegabbard.com - a REAL conservative running for Congress!)
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To: Podkayne

"Pope JP2 has done more to stem the anti-tradition tide than will ever be reported by the complicit western media"

Bull. He is in all-out war against Catholic Tradition. No pope has done more to harm the Church. The faith has all but collapsed in Europe--and why not? Catechesis is in a shambles, seminaries are fully corrupt, Rome's credibility has imploded, and bishops don't give a damn. Meanwhile he has just published a book of nature poetry--perhaps to show us where his heart is at.


37 posted on 06/30/2004 9:01:56 AM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: little jeremiah
I would never try to "convert" anyone...

That's one of the differences between you and real Catholics.

38 posted on 06/30/2004 9:05:13 AM PDT by Land of the Irish
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To: seamole

Yeah, he also said we would know the false prophets by their fruits. This is the fruit of JPII's radical ecumenism. It is as poisonous to the faith as his other enterprises.


39 posted on 06/30/2004 9:06:04 AM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: saradippity

Thanks for your kind words. I see all monotheists - sincere ones - as brothers and sisters, despite our differences in theology. We share so many of the same values, that if can focus more on the basics we share, we can more successfully fight the atheistic, moral relativist, hedonist, homosexualist, secularists (more accurately, God-haters) who want to turn our entire planet into their fiefdom and silence all expression of religion.

When they're defeated, we can more peacefully discuss theology.

(I will be posting on this thread later in the day.)

P.S. (I'm leaving aside the whole Muslim topic; even though the fanatics claim to believe in God, they are so illusioned and full of hate they obviously are not worshipping God at all. Another whole topic.)


40 posted on 06/30/2004 9:06:12 AM PDT by little jeremiah (http://www.mikegabbard.com - a REAL conservative running for Congress!)
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