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1 posted on 07/04/2004 9:29:48 AM PDT by Polycarp IV
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There has been some serious debate on this subject lately here. This is definitely worth a look.

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2 posted on 07/04/2004 9:31:22 AM PDT by Polycarp IV (PRO-LIFE orthodox Catholic - -without exception, without compromise, without apology. Any questions?)
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An interesting article with some relevant sources that useful for future reference. However, the article is undermined by the fact that Fr. Harrison is so clearly trying to prove one side of the argument. His polemical approach causes the reader to assume that he is not presenting the arguments fairly and objectively.

With regard to the interpretation of Casti Connubii, he is clearly failing to present it in a balanced manner. He throws around a lot of verbiage to obscure the clear words of the document.

What Fr. Harrison really has here are 3 statements from the Sacred Penitentiary which support the use of periodic continence. These 3 statements are of great interest, and they create a history so that Pope Pius XII's statement in "Allocution to Italian Midwives" does not seem to come out of nowhere. All the rest of the article could be dispensed with, and he would have been more convincing if he had presented that evidence dispassionately.


6 posted on 07/04/2004 1:18:01 PM PDT by Maximilian
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To: Polycarp IV

Blah, Blah, Blah. NFP, and this article is just mans way of justifying seeking their own pleasure, and the Church assisting them.

IF using birth control is genuinely a sin, then so is NFP.


7 posted on 07/04/2004 1:44:48 PM PDT by Arguss (Take the narrow road)
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To: Polycarp IV

...plan, plan, plan...it is not for US to plan.


9 posted on 07/04/2004 2:17:17 PM PDT by ethicgal
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I don't understand the title of this article. NFP can't be a "heresy" since heresy involves denying a dogma of the deposit of faith. This is a moral issue only.


13 posted on 07/04/2004 5:12:53 PM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: Polycarp IV
Married or engaged couples are often taught the legitimacy and the technique of the ovulation or sympto-thermal methods of NFP, but with little or no mention of that other part of the Church's teaching which insists that couples need "just reasons"

B.S.

"Just reasons" are spoken of quite often in NFP classes.

82 posted on 07/06/2004 5:45:03 AM PDT by al_c
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