Ratzinger-Kerry, Act II. The Well-Tempered Controversy

Chiesa.com ^ | July 14, 2004 | Sandro Magister

[NYer]

It's not over until the fat lady sings!

[Pyro7480]

This has been already posted.

[hummingbird]

Thanks, NYer. I printed up a thread 7/6/2004 from Newsmax "Cardinal Ratzinger Orders Kerry Communion Ban!" http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1166343/posts but had not gotten around to reading it just yet. Looks like some interesting other links to peruse!

(Do you know why my "link" is not linked? I've linked before and had no problems and "linked" before and had problems so we obviously have a "user" error going on here!)

[ninenot]

I don't think this is a re-post. Do you have the URL for the IDENTICAL article post?

See, this one demonstrates, once again and clearly, that McCarrick is LYING THROUGH HIS TEETH.

[Pyro7480]

The title is slightly different, but it is the same article I belive. Ratzinger vs. Kerry (McCarrick): Round 2. A Well-Tempered Controversy

[Convert from ECUSA]

This is great for a new convert just received into the Church, it seems the leaders (with a few exceptions) keep saying one thing, then another. It makes me wonder what's what. Now I know why a lot of my Catholic library consists of the writings of the Fathers and Saints, as well as the old classics from TAN, Neumann Press, and Sophia Institute Press, etc. Those "old" writings are so clear; a person knows what is what. These "old" works combined with a fine priest and Our Mother that got me across the Tiber.

[AskStPhilomena]

While the bishops duck and dive in "dialogue", babies are being butchered in the millions.
Concerted efforts are continuing to ensure that provisions are made for "underserved areas"...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3891859.stm

[NYer]

This is great for a new convert just received into the Church

Welcome Home!

We look forward to your comments and feel free to ask any questions.

If you have access to cable tv, check your local listings for EWTN. Monday evenings at 8pm, Marcus Grodi (a former Baptist) hosts The Journey Home. It is a wonderful program for us cradle catholics, new converts like yourself and for those who are somewhere along the journey. You can listen to previous shows, in Real Audio, at the following link. God bless you on your journey!

JOURNEY HOME

[NYer]

(Do you know why my "link" is not linked? I've linked before and had no problems and "linked" before and had problems so we obviously have a "user" error going on here!)

Here you go ...

CARDINAL RATZINGER ORDERS KERRY COMMUNION BAN!

[Pyro7480]

Now I know why a lot of my Catholic library consists of the writings of the Fathers and Saints, as well as the old classics from TAN, Neumann Press, and Sophia Institute Press, etc. Those "old" writings are so clear; a person knows what is what. These "old" works combined with a fine priest and Our Mother that got me across the Tiber.

This post of yours is so exciting to read! You're in good hands. Those printers are the "powerhouses" of orthodox Catholicism in the U.S. Have you consecrated yourself to Our Lord through the Immaculate Heart of Mary yet?

[Convert from ECUSA]

I haven't consecrated myself through Mary yet. When I became an adult Christian back in 1977, I got a very strong impression to be careful about making promises to the Lord - because I would be heartbroken if I ever made a promise to Him and broke it, so I have tried never to make a promise. I feel the same way about Mary. I fell in love with her (no disrespect intended) almost three years ago, and I treasure her. If I consecrated myself to Christ through her and in my weakness broke any promises, I'd be even more heartbroken. My own personal hangup. I am still considering it, and my yet overcome my concerns and do so.

[Convert from ECUSA]

Thanks. I'd have to get a dish to get EWTN, since it isn't on my local cable; not sure I want to spend the money for a dish just for one channel. I've watched EWTN when I've been on vacation, and have been very impressed with them. Mother Angelica is in a class by herself, she's one of my favorites. I've watched Grodi and Cavins, as well as Scott Hahn. They seem to be very good.

[Pyro7480]

If I consecrated myself to Christ through her and in my weakness broke any promises, I'd be even more heartbroken. My own personal hangup. I am still considering it, and my yet overcome my concerns and do so.

I consecrated myself just over a year ago, and I still fall into sin (it's called human nature). I felt guilty at times after this. That's why the Sacrament of Confession is so important regardless. Christ gave us a great example in His Via Dolorosa. He fell many times, but He got up, and kept on going. We must do the same, "take up our crosses daily, and follow Him."

[NYer]

sure I want to spend the money for a dish just for one channel.

You can watch the program live over the internet, as well. I sometimes listen to the stories in Real Audio. One of the best ones is "Marcus Grodi with Doug Gonzales". He's a former Nazarene minister. His story is truly amazing!

BTW - I maintain a Catholic Ping List. Let me know if you are interested in joining.

[old and tired]

We look forward to your comments and feel free to ask any questions.

Yikes! Don't ask me. I don't know nuthin'. I just post here.

But NYer probably will know. Ask her.

[AnAmericanMother]

Hi! Welcome to this side of the Tiber, from another Episcopalian refugee.

We started visiting around in January, and in May our entire family made our profession of faith and my husband and I were confirmed in the Catholic Church.

We were blessed to find a wonderful parish shore to wash up on - Holy Spirit, Atlanta. It's a largish suburban parish with two priests (one an older irascible Irishman, one a young enthusiastic highly orthodox product of one of the conservative American seminaries . . . sounds like "Going My Way" doesn't it? . . . one young Thai priest from the Redemptorists, two permanent deacons, a great youth program, and a decent music program for a Catholic church (I hate to say that, but the one big sticking point for Episcopalians is the quality of the music in the Catholic church. I am spoiled because our old choir was one of the best. Sang at Spoleto and everything.)

If you're anxious about consecrating yourself through Mary, why don't you take it to her in prayer? She'll know what to do. Have you a patron saint? You could also take it to him or to her. That's why they are there - to help and encourage.

[hummingbird]

Thanks, NYer; how'd you do that?