Posted on 07/18/2004 5:14:11 PM PDT by narses
I think she made these statements in the late 1940s. They are not in her book School of Darkness that I can find but, I am pretty sure Alice von Hildebrand speaks of her making them at least by the early 1950s.
The Vatican's intelligence service was played like a cheap fiddle by the Communists during WWII. Look up Anton Turkul. Why expect anything better regarding the infiltration of seminiaries, when it is obvious from the pronouncements of many Priests and Bishops in the US, for example, that they are Communists or Fellow-Travellers?
Oh come on! Masonry is the US is throughly associated with the Mafia, the Police, and the higher levels of management in many companies. In many places, its impossible to get ahead without becoming a Mason. And its still the same old naturalistic anti-Catholic organization as you had in Europe. If it seems less anti-Catholic here in the US, its because the Catholic Church here is less Catholic.
Any relation to Chris Dodd?
I was quite surprised when two months later she (Meisel) wrote a scathing review of "The Divinci Code",since the unseen hand that moves the conspiracy also moves the author of the book. Makes one wonder.
I little interesting fact that is somewhat on topic:Pope Pius XII did not make Montini a Cardinal. Speculation is that he knew he was dangerous and did not want him to be Pope. I heard that they picked an older man,John XXIII,to name Montini and hopefully die soon after which he did.
Those apostates then ascended to power positions in the USCCB and were able to send only three tried and true fellow travelers to the Vatican. I know that many good Bishops were placed,many by accident,but they could be effectively muzzled by the Bernardins and Mahoneys and Deardens.
Even now one of their men is in position to take over the chairmanship/presidency of the USCCB. It's Skylstad of Spokane and he is bad. I hope and pray that the good Bishops are in a position to establish a new protocol. Currently the vice-prez or cochairman steps up,Skylstad is in that position now.
No,Chris Dodd is of the Dodd family that speaks only to God,or something close. Bella Dodd comes from an Italian family,she was first or second generation at most.
uh folks, recommendations for any books (in English!) on this topic? how about related websites that don't go wandering off into tinfoil hat country?
Bottom line here is that my primary interest comes from my background as an intelligence analyst. The implied levels of infiltration suggested in this thread pose threats to more than just Roman Catholicism, y'know...
one might hypothesize that leftist concentration on the SJ was related to this issue.
I suggest exploring the writings of Chapman Pincher and Peter Wright. Start with the Cambridge Apostles and connect the dots... Bugger freemason Commies. Pathetic.
Other than spanking hookers at conventions occasionally, the creepy yokel bubbas in the gocarts drunk on mystery punch have little to do with the Kaballistic-Alchemical-Occult-Albigensian-Tantric-Templar-Sodomite-Jesus-Was-a-Mushroom-and-MaryMagdalen-was-the Holy-Grail-who-blew-him Neo-Gnosticism that fascinates anti-Catholic wackos. The people promoting The Da Vinci Code do have an agenda and their fantasies about Jacques de Molay are related to this in some bizarre manner. You don't need a tinfoil hat - THEY themselves brag and boast about their anti-Catholic global grandiosity.
Heck, Barnes&Noble is practically sponsoring an anti-Catholic crusade filled with the pro-secret society propaganda. It's out in the open. Not exactly an arcane secret. They would have to explain why their fascination and obsession with the Cathars, Gnostics, Essenes, and Templars requires contemporary intrigues against orthodox Catholicism. It's a damn lie that nothing is going on here.
The Jesuits, the seminaries, chanceries, and even Opus Dei (as the KGB Hanssen case shows) have been targeted FOR YEARS!
I was being a smart-@ss. :^)
LOL! Good point.
The very ones - I couldn't remember their names. Jadot I think was particularly evil.
I'm going to have to go look up Skylstad (I hope he was never in Charleston - everybody else seems to have been.)
That is absolutely true. It's also, to add to your depression, worldwide. Every time I go to Spain, I find another spate of books has been published gushing about the Templars, for example.
I'm planning to do the Camino de Santiago next month, and these people are out there crawling all over the place now announcing how the Camino was really part of the Templar Magical Mystery Tour or some such thing. They have polluted absolutely everything. If I meet any of them, I may have to pop them in the chops.
Or like Shiite Moslems attacking contemporary Americans and Europeans because of the medieval crusades. Anti-Catholic secret societies are the Shiite jihadists of the secular humanist and occult underworlds. Classic "hate group." The "bubbas" who spout this stuff are usually backwoods semi-retards.
Cathars? Templars??? I didn't know there was any valid extant data available on the actual workings and specific gnostic beliefs of either group (outside of, maybe, the Vatican archives)...or are the new agers just using those names to cover up the fact that they're making up most of what they write?
Whatever animates and agitates a bunch of yahoos in, say, Arkansas to imagine that they are still locked in an ongoing cosmic battle with Pope Clement V, Phillippe Capet, and Torquemada...to the point of dressing up in battle costumes and RingWraith robes, mumbling Kabballistic anagrams is anyone's guess.
A couple of puzzles left from "the great work":
Jesus was a mushroom/Jesus married Mary Magdalen and settled in France.
The crusades were horrible crimes by the Catholic Church/We're proud to be descended from the Knights Templar warriors.
If Bill Clinton, John Kerry, Dan Brown, Aunt Bee, and Opie Taylor from Mayberry are keepers of the arcane secrets of Templar-Essene-Cathar-Albigensian-Tantric-MagicMushroom-Alchemical-Bogomil-Kabballistic-Pythagorian-Neo-Gnostic geomantic gymnosophy twister, I would tend to imagine there must be something rather amusing at the center of all of this spiritual confusion.
There may be a clue in HELP!:
'Why were the high priests of the terrible goddess of Kaili interested in the Beatles?'
I was thinking the very same thing, only I have been known to wear a tin foil hat quite often! :-)
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