Posted on 08/19/2004 12:12:31 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
However, the Bishops supporters, and the Government people, urged, "Cannot you stop that Mass of yours?"
"Oh, no, we need our daily Mass". "Please, if you would, just STOP THAT MASS!"
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Correspondence from Fr. Blute, August 16, 2004:
...The critical juncture is over. The Bishop bought a judgement from the High Court, in Madras, and obtained rights over the keys of the church, came with police, and entered. We and all the people fled away. With great solemnity, the Bishop celebrated Mass in the very place hallowed by the Tridentine Mass days before: to an empty church.
There were 40 local people, and about the same brought by the Bishop in a bus. The normal crowd is 3000!! The people are themselves asking to set up a tent on borrowed land, and have the Latin Mass within 2 weeks.
The people of Punnai nagar, especially, are bracing for the next onslaught, because they have also rejected the government of the Bishop Leon Dharmaraj (means "Lion King of Virtue" the old women laugh and say Leon
Adarmaraj---"Lion king of vice"). Recall that St. Peter says "your adversary the Devil as a roaring Leon goes about
seeking whom he may devour.") So keep praying for us; there is a harvest to be gathered for tradition, and whether it yield 40, 60, or 100 fold depends on our prayers.
Fr. Blute
whoa!
Recall that St. Peter says "your adversary the Devil as a roaring Leon goes about seeking whom he may devour."
Bears repeating.
This is the mentality of the modernists. They hate and fear the Mass because it undermines their agenda.
Under the jurisdiction of the local bishop. That is Canon Law.
That same Canon Law does not allow laymen to hire and fire priests, nor to disobey the local bishop.
I'd certainly favor more control of local churches by the laity. But, in a civil dispute such as this, governments will defer to the ecclesiastical jurisdiction, and that is the local bishop.
The Mission does participate in a division of its Sunday collection with the Diocese Office, and promotes the annual pledge to the Diocese Fund.
Likewise a Catholic university lies within the Diocese, but the lay faculty answers to the Jesuit Order - who also own the property.
Please see Post 8, about who's on first.
Bishops, like it or not, are the ecclesiastical authorities in a diocese
The bishop could also withdraw faculties for the local Catholic university, and it would cease to become a "Catholic university."
Canon Law.
Ping for further reading. Look for New Testament churches with which to worship would be my suggestion. The violence, anger and upset could all be avoided.
The only "New Testament church" is the Catholic Church - something the Indians of the area obviously realize.
Actually more complicated than that. The current Code of Canon Law expects the Church to live within the civil code where it finds itself, in general. The case in India varies from state to state where there are political realities for parishes that require a Catholic bishop to function in a way that no American bishop could imagine. The bishop in this case is doing what most Catholic bishops are doing in India, smashing and destroying the old civil structures that bound them by using whatever means are necessary. This has been happening since the Council and has been ratcheting up in recent years to a fever pitch in several parts of India.
Game over.
**Those priests at the Polish mission cannot function unless given faculties by the local bishop.**
True with any order. Not just Jesuits.
In this archdiocese we have land owned and operated by the Benedictine's WITH the approval of the archbishop.
The underground Catholic Church in the former Czechoslovakia parallel to the visible Catholic Church in that former nation gave some indication of the unusual situations the Church finds herself in. After the Velvet Revolution, it took a while for the Vatican to figure out it needed to erect the Greek Catholic Church in the Czech Republic to accomodate the underground married priests who were the bravest men and Catholic heroes. The Vatican officials at first treated them like unwanted vermin, but that is not new for God's saints in the making.
Sounds just like many of the USCCB bishops.
Too late. They already claim they are a "Jesuit education," not Catholic University.
The laity already control the local church already. In my town they decided baptism is not necessary, and that's that.
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