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To: Modernman

I don't know that? Is the ACLU Pagans? are homosexuals that are trying to enforce there values on people that follow the Holy Scriptures Pagans? Pagans are idol worshippers and I guess they can manifest there forms of worship in many ways that would be considered paganism...


7 posted on 08/23/2004 6:51:14 AM PDT by missyme (<imgsrc=http://www.cat-domain.com/cats_long/yoni-rmans.jpg>)
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To: missyme
I don't know that? Is the ACLU Pagans? are homosexuals that are trying to enforce there values on people that follow the Holy Scriptures Pagans? Pagans are idol worshippers and I guess they can manifest there forms of worship in many ways that would be considered paganism...

That seems to be a pretty broad definition of pagan. One could be, for example, a Christian and a member of the ACLU. Similarly, one could be gay but also consider themselves Jewish etc.

I think you can only count people who consider themselves to be pagan as part of this group.

10 posted on 08/23/2004 6:57:53 AM PDT by Modernman (Hippies.They're everywhere. They wanna save the earth, but all they do is smoke pot and smell bad.)
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To: missyme; Pio; pascendi; Canticle_of_Deborah; pro Athanasius; Viva Christo Rey; Maeve

A pagan can be anybody who either does not know God, or has rejected him for some other "god". That "god" could be money, sex, power, all the usual prideful things that are wrapped up in serfishness and the primoridal "non serviam" (I will not serve) which was Lucifer's cry.

While a pagan does not literally have to worship a graven image, some do. with others, it is a figurative image. There are many, many different levels and echelons to paganism - both organized and unorganized. The higher you go, the closer you get to literal worship of Satan.

But many are "sucked in" - quite unaware of the ramifications of what they are fooling with. Any dabbling with the occult - no matter how seemingly innocent - is asking for trouble. It is, in a sense, inviting evil to sit in your living room and have tea.

The more one gets involved with activities and associations of the occult, the more lost he becomes - and the harder it is for him to extricate himself...by himself. After a while, it becomes nearly impossible - as the door to god is shut and locked. The consciense has had its fuses removed, and does not work anymore.

At higher levels, the more serious wiccan/luciferian is more consciously giving control of himself - and giving of himself in a conscious act of worship. He requests power from demons - and gets it. These people are the most dangerous because they are not useful idiots, they know exactly what they are bargaining for, and like it.

Why the flurry of interest? The failure of the Roman Catholic Church to function as a vessel of sacramental grace in the aftermath of vatican II. It's that simple. And all the once spiritually strong Protestant denominations have followed suit in a way, losing what ever grace they had in the strong faith of their preaching.

It is all a sign of these times......and is the result of the Fatima "or" chosen by Pope John XXIII.


31 posted on 08/24/2004 1:54:27 PM PDT by thor76 (Ave Maria Assumpta! Mediatrix of all graces & Co-Redemptrix of Mankind!)
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