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To: ultima ratio; sinkspur
It is not for Tradition to bend to the Pope, it is for the Pope to bend to Tradition.

Yet another one who denies the work of the Holy Spirit in the church. Your misguided faith in 'tradition only' removes you from the spiritual well of faith entrusted by Christ to His church. You have locked yourself into a closet and expect the entire church to join you in your inner sanctum.

85 posted on 09/20/2004 6:26:23 PM PDT by NYer (When you have done something good, remember the words "without Me you can do nothing." (John 15:5).)
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To: NYer

"Yet another one who denies the work of the Holy Spirit in the church"

Not at all. Of course the Holy Spirit is at work in the Church--but He helps traditionalists, not Rome. And since the true Catholic faith is sustained by traditionalism, not by the Novus Ordo religion, we must turn to that surviving remnant of Catholicism to appreciate where Christ is actually working his wonders. Beyond the traditionalist movement there is just devastation--hardly the work of the Holy Spirit.


90 posted on 09/20/2004 6:38:37 PM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: NYer
Yet another one who denies the work of the Holy Spirit in the church.

The "Spirit" of Vatican Council II is not the Holy Ghost. As a matter of fact, guidance from the Holy Ghost was not even invoked at that purely pastoral council that declared no new dogma.

93 posted on 09/20/2004 6:43:01 PM PDT by Land of the Irish
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