[sinkspur]

How do quarter billion dollar cathedrals justify rampant consumerism on the part of the laiety?

Sets a bad example.

[Conservative til I die]

So you think that Catholics don't posess the free will needed to not be consumerists? C'mon, that's like saying laiety will molest kids because some priests do.

Laypeople using "THe Church does it too!" are just looking for a quick, cheap excuse to justify their own selfish actions.