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THE SPECIAL DUTIES OF HUSBANDS TO THEIR WIVES
The Covenant Family Fellowship ^ | 1673 | Richard Baxter

Posted on 10/13/2004 11:27:18 AM PDT by Gamecock

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To: Gamecock; xzins
Great post.

May I add (albeit from the more worldly realm and certainly subservient to Baxter's Godly truths)-- someone once told me that in a good marriage both people strive to be empathetic and flexible.

I think those are wonderful qualities for living a rewarding, generous life in partnership.

That and two bathrooms. 8~)

21 posted on 10/13/2004 2:54:09 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (John Kerry is a GirlyManchurian Candidate.)
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To: xzins; Gamecock; dirtboy
"Charm is a way of getting the answer yes without having asked any clear question." -- Albert Camus.

Sort of like "Irresistible Grace."
22 posted on 10/13/2004 3:10:26 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (John Kerry is a GirlyManchurian Candidate.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

My IRRESISTIBLE Grin!

She'll love that.

:>)


23 posted on 10/13/2004 3:20:01 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: Gamecock
This is a loaded post - so many points could be discussed! I will reply to one of them which is mentioned in the first paragraph, bitterness.

A husband's failure to fulfill his duties, does not allow a wife to have a self-righteous bitterness toward her husband. As a joint member of the marriage covenant, a wife's proper response should be to pray for her husband to see his covenantal duty and desire it.

Instead of a Haehnchen, I prefer a Brezel with my Weissbier!

24 posted on 10/13/2004 6:26:44 PM PDT by suzyjaruki
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To: suzyjaruki

LOL! You're off to a great start on the GRPL, Suzi.


25 posted on 10/13/2004 6:45:52 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (John Kerry is a GirlyManchurian Candidate.)
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To: suzyjaruki

Yeah, where's the wife's duties?


26 posted on 10/13/2004 8:29:57 PM PDT by VPMWife78 ("Thank you for lending him to us!" -Gen. Tommy Franks, to me, about my husband.)
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To: VPMWife78

Have you read The Excellent Wife by Martha Peace? If you are looking for wifely duties you'll find them listed there with all the appropriate bible references.


27 posted on 10/13/2004 8:43:55 PM PDT by suzyjaruki
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To: Gamecock

The author sounds like he's never been married, or he's a tard.


28 posted on 10/13/2004 9:07:22 PM PDT by Pahuanui (When a foolish man hears of the Tao, he laughs out loud)
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To: VPMWife78
Yeah, where's the wife's duties?

Keep you chin up; sound cheerful when he calls; send weekly care packages; don't bad mouth the Corps; when you do cry, know that you are not alone.

Know that this FReeper is praying for his safe return

29 posted on 10/13/2004 9:36:59 PM PDT by Gamecock (The more purely God's word is preached, the more deeply it pierces and the more kindly it works. WG)
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To: suzyjaruki
Profound post my elect sister, esp the part about Bretzel with Weissbier.

I think I'll swing by the Backeri and have one on the way to work.



(A Brezel that is, it is only 0640....)
30 posted on 10/13/2004 9:39:32 PM PDT by Gamecock (The more purely God's word is preached, the more deeply it pierces and the more kindly it works. WG)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"Proudly posting without reading the thread since 1999."

Lazamataz, I think.

31 posted on 10/14/2004 7:31:53 AM PDT by Tax-chick (If you stand very still, they may think you're a tree.)
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To: Tax-chick

Thanks. I thought so, too.


32 posted on 10/14/2004 9:35:15 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (John Kerry is a GirlyManchurian Candidate.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Interesting article, btw, but I just don't like beer!


33 posted on 10/14/2004 9:37:57 AM PDT by Tax-chick ( The old woman who lives in the 15-passenger van.)
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To: Gamecock

Let us all look on the Spirit, and not the physical. It is time to grow up on this issue. We should each build up one another. Each of us - male or female, husband or wife - should strive to submit one to another and stop fussing over foolish words and traditions of men. Let the Bible speak for itself, don't add meaning.

"Government" of the wife is never Biblically mandated. Definitely not in the manner that the children and slaves were to be "ruled."

I will not be back to discuss this, however, we who are in Christ are no longer under the curse of the fall of Creation. I am a child of God, fully reconciled to Him, by Him, through His Son, Jesus Christ. I was circumcised by Christ, without hands. I am just as much a priest of God as my husband is.


34 posted on 10/14/2004 9:46:39 AM PDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: Tax-chick
but I just don't like beer!

That's OK, there is just more for the rest of us.

35 posted on 10/14/2004 11:44:32 AM PDT by Gamecock (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." (Or something like that) B. Franklin)
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To: Gamecock

Thank you for posting this. This made it into our family devotions Wed. evening.


36 posted on 10/14/2004 1:35:23 PM PDT by Lexinom ("A person's a person no matter how small" - from Dr. Seuss' Horton Hears a Who)
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To: hocndoc
I will not be back to discuss this...Let the Bible speak for itself

A discussion allowing the Bible to speak for itself will teach headship. The apostle Paul will discuss it with you if you let him, start with 1 Cor. 11:3 and Ephesians 5:22-24.

37 posted on 10/14/2004 2:22:39 PM PDT by suzyjaruki
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To: suzyjaruki

I am not discussing the "headship" or "government." But, I do have to ask you, don't you think, in light of the very careful wording of my post, that I have studied these verses?

Okay, one tiny comment about "headship": Think about what the "headship" means in light of "Hear oh Israel, The Lord Our God is One." (Deuteronomy 6:4, Mark 12:29) "My Father and I are One" "The Word was with God and the Word was God." (the Gospel of John) "I am God and there is no other, I am God and there is none like me" (Isa. 46). There is more about this in Colossians, especially the first chapter.

Our God is One. Jesus is one with God and Jesus is God and human and the Holy Spirit is God and Jesus and Jesus is the image of God.

Christians are monotheistic, we do not have *three* gods. The discussion of Jesus' subordination vs. Jesus as God is as old as Christianity, itself.

This argument about who is head and who is subordinate is a human way to see and understand what we can't. Like all our efforts, as creatures rather than Creator, we cannot understand That which is outside our universe, our spacial and linear time frame. We should be very careful in what we say when we try to fit Him and His servants into our understanding.

But, I am certain that I don't worship 2 or 3 gods. My God is One. And He became "One with us" in a way that I don't understand and can't quite explain. He did this as sacrifice for us in order to reconcile us fully to Him. I only have One High Priest, One Mediator, One Head.


38 posted on 10/14/2004 10:09:39 PM PDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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