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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; Gamecock; Dr. Eckleburg; Californiajones; Conservatrix; Colonel Kangaroo; ...
I'll preface by saying; I don't know.

The 1689 London Baptist Confession puts it thus;

Elect Infants dying in infancy, are regenerated and saved by Christ through the Spirit; who worketh when, and where, and how he pleaseth: so also are all other elect persons, who are uncapable of being outwardly called by the Ministry of the Word.

appears as though not ALL infants are Elect, and we have no way of knowing which infants ARE Elect.

Consider: do abortionists save more souls than mainline evangelical churches?

I'm only through the fisrt 100 posts. If it's been mentioned already, I'll get to it...

326 posted on 01/31/2005 8:36:02 AM PST by packrat01 (Politics:Saying "Islam is a religion of peace" while seeking final destruction of Islamist Terrorism)
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I don't believe there is a need to be saved, I believe we are as God intended...good or bad or in-between.


327 posted on 01/31/2005 8:49:41 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: packrat01; OrthodoxPresbyterian; Gamecock; Dr. Eckleburg; Californiajones; Conservatrix; ...

I believe the 1689 London Baptist Confession to be correct. The real issue is that no one knows who the elect are including infants. Hence the confession rightly skirts the issue with its quantified answer. It may be all infants are elected. But it up to God in His wisdom, mercy and justice to decide. Not us.


328 posted on 01/31/2005 9:16:44 AM PST by HarleyD
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Talks of elects and predestination is heresy.
329 posted on 01/31/2005 9:30:58 AM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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***The 1689 London Baptist Confession puts it thus;

Elect Infants dying in infancy, are regenerated and saved by Christ through the Spirit; who worketh when, and where, and how he pleaseth: so also are all other elect persons, who are uncapable of being outwardly called by the Ministry of the Word.

appears as though not ALL infants are Elect, and we have no way of knowing which infants ARE Elect.

Consider: do abortionists save more souls than mainline evangelical churches?***

I pointed out something of this privately to Diamond. I believe that the Bible teaches that infants are saved in the same way that we adults are saved: It is by grace are you saved, through faith. And, I believe that the Bible provides comfort and assurance to his children who have babies that die.

But, I see no reason that the Bible would provide any assurance of any kind to people who are not saved. It makes not sense. The only assurance that they should have is of certain destruction unless they repent and turn to the Lord. Why would God provide any assurance to them about the eternal state of their children who die?

This doesn't mean that the Lord doesn't save them. It only means that the Lord is silent. There is no assurance given to them concerning their children.

I also agree with you concerning the abortionists. If we presume that a person will be saved for no other reason than they died as infants, then we should declare the abortionists the greatest evangelists in the world.

In the service of the Lord,
Christian.


330 posted on 01/31/2005 10:06:45 AM PST by thePilgrim
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