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To: old and tired
Since I didn't renew my contract with the Dish Network,I could not see first hand what was happening--EWTN is arrying it. However,I had a friend who called me and related the vote counts as they were voting. I am relying on my memory because he had to go to work right after the votes were conted and I had just picked up a stray phone in the house that had no pen or paper handy.

I was especially interested in Kikanes because he is as bad as his poor pathetic predessessor in Tucson but much smarter,which makes him much more dangerous. He had been a Bernardin man,is said to be homosexual and has declared bankruptcy for the diocese.

The votes were eletronically cast so there is no way of figuring out who vote for whom. Too bad. My biggest concerns wer Kikanes and Wuerl. I am not sure why I am cncerned about Wuerl,I really don't know too much aboout him. I think I go from lukewarm to cold on him,I'll just watch closer because he's obviously a player. I do know my favorites were George and Chaput with Rigali not far behind and then Levada and then Dolan. I knew Kikanes and Skylstad were not acceptable. I was not at all easy with Wuerl and I just can't remember the other two.

Sorry I can't be of more help.

For the sake of watering some gardens,I can bet that Pilla,Pilarcyzk,Clark,Hubbard,Lynch,Friend,Mahoney,McGrath,Brown,Pellote,Kelly,Grahmann,Fiorenza,Flynn,Adamec,Imesch were all pretty worried that Skylstad would be turned out of office. But the more I think about it the more I thin that it is good that a dissident,prickly Amchurchian bishop is there to take heat until the Catholic Church in the USA is cleansed. I really don't think it will take much longer.

71 posted on 11/15/2004 10:56:03 AM PST by saradippity
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To: saradippity; Land of the Irish

Thanks. You may have something about it actually being a good thing Skylstad is at the helm. The story Land of the Irish posted is something right out of Goodbye, Good Men. It does seem like the whole abuse thing is coming to the forefront again. I think the media is mad at the Catholics over Bush's win.


75 posted on 11/15/2004 11:02:47 AM PST by old and tired
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To: saradippity

3 old dear friends in Tucson -- all report to me that he is a living composite icon of Bernardin and Jadot.


83 posted on 11/15/2004 11:44:24 AM PST by Siobhan (Where is there justice in the gate...)
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To: saradippity

"I am not sure why I am cncerned about Wuerl,I really don't know too much aboout him."

Nor do I.
But my recollection is that he is the guy sent to Seattle to straighten out Hunthausen's mess.
When he left Seattle the mess was still there and so was Hunthausen.

"Pilla,Pilarcyzk,Clark,Hubbard,Lynch,Friend,Mahoney,McGrath,Brown,Pellote,Kelly,Grahmann,Fiorenza,Flynn,Adamec,Imesch"

What a list! I am surprised you haven't put my bishop (Vlasny) on that list. He is one of the original Bernardin's Boys.
Also what about Sylvester Ryan from San Jose?


89 posted on 11/15/2004 12:06:04 PM PST by rogator
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