[Tribune7]

There is hope for you guys yet. :-)

[Tribune7]

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[AntiGuv]

There is definitely no hope for me, though! If there is a God, then he clearly chose to create the universe such that I would never believe in him. Who am I to argue with God? =)

[MineralMan]

"There is hope for you guys yet. :-)"

Perhaps. Flew made a minor alteration in his views. He went from atheism to a sort of nebulous deism. He can't define this deity, but he can't figure out how life began without one. So, now he posits that there is some generic sort of deity that started it all up.

Hardly a revolutionary thought.

[catonsville]

Although Flew now believes in a Deist God, he does NOT believe in an afterlife. Therefore, to Frey there is no real cosmic benefit for his change of heart. What he did becomes even more important.

Atheists cannot claim the 81 year old Frey was just hedging his bets.

Frey was a MAJOR non believer. His works are (were) quoted on atheistic web sites as their Holy Writ. His defection is a large philisophical loss.