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To: PleaseNoMore

** I thought that He was not a respector of persons.**

You think that Jesus Christ would not respect his Mother? You need to rethink your words, perhaps.


51 posted on 12/10/2004 8:29:18 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation; PleaseNoMore
"And He [Jesus] went down with them, and came to Nazareth, and was subject to them." -Luke 2: 51.

If Jesus was subject to Mary and Joseph on earth, and He is true God, then it makes sense that He would still, in accordance with His will, would hear the intercession of, at the very least, Mary and St. Joseph.

52 posted on 12/10/2004 8:34:48 AM PST by Pyro7480 (Sub tuum praesidium confugimus, sancta Dei Genitrix.... sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper...)
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To: Salvation; PleaseNoMore
Luke, for instance, likens her to the Ark of the Covenant in recording that the Holy Spirit "overshadowed" her. The same word in Greek is used to describe the way the Shekinah (glory of God) overshadowed the tabernacle in Luke 1:35. Likewise, John makes the same connection between Mary and the Ark of the Covenant when he announces in Revelation 11:19-12:2:

Did PleaseNoMore even read this part of the article at the start of this thread? I will refer you to the Book of Exodus where very specific instructions are given for the construction of the Ark. If God specified that with the Ark that contained His written word, one must think that He would have had taken as much, if not more care, for the New Ark that bore the Word Made Flesh.

53 posted on 12/10/2004 8:55:26 AM PST by Pyro7480 (Sub tuum praesidium confugimus, sancta Dei Genitrix.... sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper...)
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To: Salvation
No, I didn't say that Jesus did not respect his mother. Never said that at all. Yes, Jesus did the miracle at his mother's request but he also performed miracles at the request of others. So, rephrasing here...Is one person more important to Jesus than another? No. He died for us all, including Mary, his earthly mother.

While you may think "behold your mother" literally means that He intended for His statement to mean that she was the mother of all Christians, I believe that He was doing what was customary for His time and seeing that Mary, a widow, was being cared for. Had He meant to "give" her to us as a mother or establish her as an important part of His church, he would have certainly said so. If this is the case why didn't any of the disciples or Paul, who addressed so much, ever mention Mary again in such a manner?

Mary is incapable of performing miracles. She is incapable of interceding on our behalf. She cannot bless us. She cannot protect us. She can't do anything for us. She is dead. I believe that Mary, an humble servant of God, would be embarassed by the glory and, in some cases, the Christ like status assigned to her by some.

65 posted on 12/10/2004 10:55:11 AM PST by PleaseNoMore
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