Wow. I am in full support with these people (vigilers)and I'm not even Catholic. It is interesting for me, as an outsider, to see V2 backfire on the hierarchy. Hopefully, this will lead to a cleansing of the Catholic Hierarchy.
While not Catholic, I did attend Catholic grade school and mass weekly as a child, even if I could not participate. I have a high respect for the traditionalists and the tridentine movement. I also pray that Rome and these liberal Bishops will repent of their evil ways.
AlbionGirl, I feel very sorry you had to go through with that horrible liberal mass. I read up on "Pastoral Leaders" and can see how some would use this to ease women into roles of priests. Delivering a homily? That is outrageous! And holding hands? I'm speechless. I would have gotten up and walked out, and again I'm not Catholic, just hearing about the disrespect shown by that priest makes me upset.
I have attended TLM here in CA and I do love the quiet respect of the TLM.
I'm glad you found a parish you appear to like. Good luck to you.
Vatican II is not "backfiring" on anybody. Many of these closings should have been done years ago. Ethnic parishes that are within blocks of other parishes, and both churches are half empty, no longer make sense economically.
I really wouldn't describe it as horrible. It was like returning to a home that you used to live in, and have found completely at odds with your recollection, and your first reaction is to bolt from there as fast as you can. I really don't like feeling that way about the Mass. It is the re-presentation of the Last Supper, I want to feel connected not disconnected.
I read up on "Pastoral Leaders" and can see how some would use this to ease women into roles of priests.
I've not read up on them, this is the first I've ever heard the title or category named. But, the whole picture had a back-door sense to it. Maybe I'm wrong. God forgive me, if I am.
Delivering a homily? That is outrageous!
So I'm told. It was also delivered mic-in-hand as she traversed the Altar. Wasn't a bad homily, didn't teach against Church teachings, to the best of my knowledge.
And holding hands? I'm speechless. I would have gotten up and walked out, and again I'm not Catholic, just hearing about the disrespect shown by that priest makes me upset.
It was inappropriate and fluff to the core, but seemingly very innocent.
Right now I'm listening to The Tallis Scholars sing Thomas Tallis' In manus tuas, and it dwarfs any earlier sense of dissatisfaction.
I'm glad you found a parish you appear to like.
It's a wonderful Parish, one of the oldest in my City. The Priest is a rock-solid, highly intelligent, man of God. What more could I ask for?
Last week at Mass he was telling the story of how Padre Pio used to tell those whose Confessions he was hearing, and who he suspected of being recalcitrant, to come back when they were ready to tell the truth. That's a Priest!
From now on, I will take pains to get to Mass there by bus, if I have to. I could have this morning, but I didn't anticipate the bad weather, and as a consequence didn't get up that hour earlier.
I'm fortunate to have such an erudite, non-nonsense Priest. Pray for him, and for all the other stalwarts like him. And perhaps even for those Priests who appear to be the wrecking crew.
Good luck to you.
Thank you, and Blessed and Merry Christmas to you.