To: Land of the Irish
To appreciate this, one need only imagine Pope St. Pius X attending what today's neo-Catholic would consider a "reverent Novus Ordo Mass," Pius X would likely have been horrified at the manner of celebration of the Eucharist by the apostles and the Early Church.
So what?
19 posted on
12/26/2004 8:42:58 PM PST by
sinkspur
("How dare you presume to tell God what He cannot do" God Himself)
To: sinkspur
When the German Protestant Martin Bucer suggested that English Protestants introduce the practice of Communion in the hand, he did so because, as he said at the time, this novel practice would undermine two Catholic teachings at once: the priesthood and the Real Presence. Allowing the faithful to receive the Eucharist in their the hands would tend to establish the belief that the Host was nothing more than ordinary bread (so indeed why shouldn't the faithful be able to touch it?) and that there was nothing special or unique about the priest that should entitle him alone to handle the sacred species. Bucer knew full well what he was doing. We can also indict the "conservative" position for having utterly failed to stem the revolutionary tide of the past thirtyfive years. Its approach simply has not worked. The Left has proceeded with determination and severity in its forcible introduction of novel practices throughout the life of the postconciliar Church, including but not limited to the liturgy. The so-called conservatives, on the other the hand, made concession after concession to these vandals, claiming that since these changes were not to dogma per se, they were not worth fighting over. The Left was sure of itself; the Right hedged. The result should have surprised no one.
The Great Facade
To: sinkspur
Pius X would likely have been horrified at the manner of celebration of the Eucharist by the apostles and the Early Church. Why? Did they misquote Christ in the consecration as well?
To: sinkspur
There is nothing remotely resembling a relation between Bugnini's concoction and the earliest Masses. The only thing the Novus Ordo resembles is the Lutheran Liturgy--which was his whole point.
To: sinkspur
Re: "Pius X would likely have been horrified at the manner of celebration of the Eucharist by the apostles and the Early Church."
A pointless "what if" game but heck it's Christmas, I'll play. I very much doubt SAINT Pius X would have been horrified since most priests were better trained in his day then they provide in modern Seminaries. I also suspect he would have been able to recognize certain necessities in worship that attends persecution. The catacombs have their own glories that a Cathedral in Los Angeles lacks.
57 posted on
12/27/2004 8:10:33 AM PST by
Mark in the Old South
(Note to GOP "Deliver or perish" Re: Specter I guess the GOP "chooses" to perish)
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