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1 posted on 01/12/2005 4:00:01 AM PST by Catholic54321
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compared the violent shift away from Spanish traditions to a coups d'etat.

It is. The Socialists only got elected because they knew how to take advantage of the chaos and fear after the bombing. In defense of the electorate, I will say nobody had really paid much attention to their program or to their candidate, Zapatero, because he had never been expected to win. In other words, you can't really say they knowingly voted for his program.

However, he has emerged as possibly the hardest left of all of the European politicians in office right now. He and his cronies hate the Church, which they see as they only power that opposes them, and he has been attacking it since the day he took office. Of course, at the same time, he has been giving government money for the building of mosques in Spain.

This is getting very little coverage outside of Spain, but friends in Spain are very worried about it, and the bishops are trying to resist and fight back while there is still time. Cardinal Rouco of Madrid is a real leader in this; he is a fine shepherd, and the left is doing everything to bring him down.

2 posted on 01/12/2005 4:19:23 AM PST by livius
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It is perhaps, not surprising that Catholic bishops in other countries are afraid to speak out against homosexuality.

I'm surprised. They're supposed to believe in God.

3 posted on 01/12/2005 6:03:42 AM PST by Tax-chick (Where am I? Who are all these kids, and why are they calling me Mom?)
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Too bad this article wasn't posted to the News/Activism Forum. It would have had a better audience.


4 posted on 01/12/2005 7:46:00 AM PST by NYer ("In good times we enjoy faith, in bad times we exercise faith." ... Mother Angelica)
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It's good to see some Bishops with spine. It's also enlightening to see the leftists' program laid out so completely. Is there really any difference in kind between the Zapatistas in Spain and the democRATS in the USA?


6 posted on 01/12/2005 7:50:04 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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I hope the morally depraved socialista Presidente Zapatero gets kicked to the curb in approximately 1152 days...


8 posted on 01/12/2005 8:11:11 AM PST by DBeers
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We get the leaders we deserve.

Spain has apostatized. It had the lowest birthrate in the world in the year 2000 and it is still the lowest in Europe.- The real Spaniards-in figures.

Over 90% of the population may claim to be "Catholic" but they surely are not living according to Church teaching in the area of marriage and the family.

The government and its changes may have appeared suddenly but all this has been incubating for quite some time. Of course, most people didn't see it coming but they never do. Too busy watching television.

How sad to see the Spanish turn their backs on the heroic witness of their parents and grandparents in the 1930s. I forsee another dose of religious persecution just around the corner.

9 posted on 01/12/2005 8:12:50 AM PST by marshmallow
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>>>>In a pastoral letter, the current bishop of Avila, home of St. Teresa of Avila, one of Catholicism's most famous 16th century mystic saints and theologians, compared the violent shift away from Spanish traditions to a coups d'etat.

We named our daughter Avila. Good to see the faith is still alive there.

patent


10 posted on 01/12/2005 8:14:48 AM PST by patent (A baby is God's opinion that life should go on. Carl Sandburg)
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"94.03% of Spain's population remains Catholic"

yeah right. if this were true, there's no way slime like Zapatero would've been elected and there'd be huge outcries about the stem-cell and gay marriage laws.


12 posted on 01/12/2005 9:03:45 AM PST by sassbox
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