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Gay, Catholic & confused (do not read after eating)
The New York Blade ^ | December 24, 2004 | Kevin Knaff

Posted on 01/12/2005 6:59:11 PM PST by AAABEST

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To: AAABEST

"The church has seen what happens when its leaders keep quiet and choose secrecy over honesty. If they have learned anything from the sex abuse scandal, it should be the need for more openness and honesty in church life."

I absolutely agree with this point. It's time to be honest - admit that the priesthood is infested with faggots - and then openly kick them out on their arse!


41 posted on 01/13/2005 5:36:21 AM PST by Tantumergo
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To: AAABEST; Land of the Irish; Tantumergo

Time for the airsick bag, a bottle of Pepto, followed by a Tanqueray chaser! Good night, nurse!


42 posted on 01/13/2005 5:37:43 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (tired of shucking and jiving)
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To: vrwcagent0498
Bishops greeting gay demonstrators?

In all honesty, I would have greeted the demonstrators as well... love the sinner, hate the sin and all. I think the bishops should greet all sinners --- and call them to repentence and to go and sin no more.

You are a good role model! Hypocracy is the worst, imo. I never can figure out why some baptized Catholics still say they are Catholics when they pick and choose and therefore, they are really Protestants. It's not easy to be a Catholic, you have to walk the walk and not just talk the talk - but there's nowhere else to go!

43 posted on 01/13/2005 5:56:22 AM PST by american colleen
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To: AAABEST

Just plain crap.


44 posted on 01/13/2005 6:35:47 AM PST by starfish923
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To: franky

I am a life-long Catholic, married for 23 years. My husband, Catholic in name only, is having an affair and has walked out on me and our 3 children. I understood that even if he divorces me, I am still married in the eyes of God and the Church. As long as I don't try to "re-marry" or engage in a sexual relationship, an anullment is not necessary. Am I mistaken?


45 posted on 01/13/2005 7:08:21 AM PST by Regina (regina)
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To: AAABEST

I am not in the least surprised that this occurs in Baltimore. Again, a notoriously liberal diocese with a lot of effeminate priests and serious liturgical aberrations. And, that is the nice way to put it. But, the younger priests are great, although far outnumbered by those priests aged 45-60.


46 posted on 01/13/2005 7:10:55 AM PST by jrny (Tenete traditionem quam tradidi vobis)
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To: Regina
I can't give advice on this (although I believe you are not mistaken) but I just wanted to let you know that I will be praying for you - that your pain may be lessened and your children's pain be lessened as well. I can't imagine your sorrow. God Bless.

Colleen

47 posted on 01/13/2005 7:32:43 AM PST by american colleen
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To: Regina

"I understood that even if he divorces me, I am still married in the eyes of God and the Church. As long as I don't try to "re-marry" or engage in a sexual relationship, an anullment is not necessary. Am I mistaken?"

You are quite correct - an anulment is not necessary at all. People only need them if they have a reason for showing that no valid marriage existed in the first place.


48 posted on 01/13/2005 9:45:58 AM PST by Tantumergo
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To: AAABEST
“White flight” has depleted this church of its congregants and it seems the only worshippers left are a few hardy old-timers along with pioneering gay men and lesbians who are buying up and restoring properties in the old neighborhood.

It wasn't "White Flight" that depleted this church ... it was Fr. Fag and his coven of limp-wristed sychophants. Normal Catholics, even those who actually like the Novus Ordo, don't like priests who are more interested in buggery than ministry.

49 posted on 01/13/2005 9:54:23 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Regina

Following is a section on divorce from the Catechism of the Catholic Church:

2386 - It can happen that one of the spouses is the innocent victim of a divorce decreed by civil law; this spouse therefore has not contravened the moral law. There is a considerable difference between a spouse who has sincerely tried to be faithful to the sacrament of marriage and is unjustly abandoned, and one who through his own grave fault destroys a canonically valid marriage.

This is the site that will give you answers on divorce:

http://ccc.scborromeo.org.master.com/texis/master/search/?sufs=0&q=divorce&xsubmit=Search&s=SS


50 posted on 01/13/2005 10:22:56 AM PST by franky (Pray for the souls of the faithful departed. Pray for our own souls to receive the grace of a happy)
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To: AAABEST
Re: "... officials at this church, which I won’t name so as to spare its priests certain ex-communication,..."

OH PLEAAAASSSSE Mary Elizabeth how just do you think you are kidding? The Cardinal is just around the corner and you think he doesn't know? What do you wanna bet that girly priest was hand picked for the post, and the burly one looks just splendid in leather?

I need a drink.
51 posted on 01/13/2005 1:48:32 PM PST by Mark in the Old South (Note to GOP "Deliver or perish" Re: Specter I guess the GOP "chooses" to perish)
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To: vrwcagent0498

God bless you.


52 posted on 01/13/2005 1:50:23 PM PST by Mark in the Old South (Note to GOP "Deliver or perish" Re: Specter I guess the GOP "chooses" to perish)
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To: broadsword
Homosexuality is a sin so vile that even the angels of hell are repulsed by it

That would make a good bumper sticker.
53 posted on 01/13/2005 7:06:41 PM PST by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: teenyelliott

teenyelliot,

Are you truly sincere in posing such a question? It just amazes me how quickly someone (you) will ascribe evil motives (greed) to someone else (the church) when you know so little about what you are writing about. So you not realize the implication of your question?

Why do people presume that churches can offer everything for free? (Yes, in cases of financial hardship, they can and do waive fees, but this must then be subsidized.)


54 posted on 01/15/2005 9:42:45 AM PST by dangus
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To: franky; Regina

Franky, that doesn't change whether or not she needs an anullment. The previous post to you, Regina, was correct: You would need an anullment before you could remarry. If you plan to live a chaste lifestyle from now on, you will not.

If you don't plan to consecrate yourself to a chaste life, and the cost (time AND money) aren't prohibitive, I would suggest looking into an anullment now. They are lengthy and time-consuming, and you may not want to wait until you meet someone who makes you decide that yes, you do want to re-marry.

Beyond that, it may be a healing process, incredibly. Although in the same way that purgatory is a healing process. Do you feel up to working out your purgatory on Earth? Seriously, it forces you to confront the decisions you've made leading you to a "marriage" which was not the fulfillment of your soul's vocation.

The tribunal will ask you to demonstrate the truth of many assertions you will have to make. Some people take that as if their honor is being challenged. If you can get past that, I'd suggest you consider getting the anullment whenever you can best handle it, not when you need it.


55 posted on 01/15/2005 9:57:09 AM PST by dangus
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