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To: AskStPhilomena

Jesus, Mary and Joseph, have mercy on us! That is reminscent and probably based on neopagan/new age/wiccan-style formula for consecrating a magic circle...And this comes out of an archdiocesan website?

Now that's getting mighty close to the abomination of desolation....


4 posted on 01/12/2005 7:23:09 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
You said it. It is so classically pagan. But thanks to the 'teaching' of some diocese, many just don't even recognize it and don't want to be told. It really is so wiccan. I hear in places like Notre Dame and in Minnesota, this kind of prayer passes for enlightened Catholic.

Now that's getting mighty close to the abomination of desolation....

Yes. I just wonder how much farther it can go.

38 posted on 01/13/2005 5:06:08 AM PST by fortunecookie (My grandparents didn't flee communism so that I could live in Kerry's Kommune - and I won't have to.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum; murphE; marshmallow; All
From Domenico Bettinelli's Blog:

Update: An archdiocesan flunky responded to someone who wrote to complain:

The text you cite was part of an apology ceremony planned largely by local victims of clergy sexual abuse in which the Archdiocese of San Francisco was a participant. An apology to clergy abuse victims for the pain and suffering caused to them by ministers of the Church was delivered by the Archbishop. The planners felt that because many of the abuse victims are alienated from the Catholic Church, the text was appropriate. The ceremony was not a liturgy and was not held in a church. I think the website describes the apology ceremony for clergy sexual abuse victims, held in June 2003. As I told another person, the text will be removed from the Archdiocesan website. 

I suggest you examine the entire Archdiocesan website at www.sfarchdiocese.org

Finally, I hope that there are more important things in this life to which you could give your attention and energy perhaps following the Holy Father's message to welcome the immigrant; or volunteering at a soup kitchen; or some other good Christian acts of charity.How arch! You can almost hear the condescension dripping from their voice. What does one thing have to do with another? The message is How dare you spend time worrying about paganism in the Church when there are immigrants to welcome and poor to feed and other social justice projects to be involved in?

To which one of his bloggers penned the following ..

1- It's a perfectly good prayer. (Deny the allegation.)
2- The archbishop said it. (Invoke authority.)
3- There were special circumstances. (Reason to bend the rules.)
4- It wasn't in a church. (The rules don't apply here anyway.)
5- We're taking it off the site. (Get rid of the evidence-- of the non-crime
that we didn't commit.)
6- You're a nasty person to notice. (Shoot the messenger.)Hmm, that response does seem strangely familiar. Is there some training that every diocesan flunky must go through that outlines how to respond to every misconduct, large or small?

69 posted on 01/13/2005 1:40:23 PM PST by NYer ("In good times we enjoy faith, in bad times we exercise faith." ... Mother Angelica)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

I agree, Sounds weird . What the heck ??


88 posted on 01/15/2005 4:39:19 PM PST by Rosary (Pray the Rosary daily)
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