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To: Stubborn
In her 1957 interview with Father Fuentes, Sister Lucy spoke: .....And since the Rosary is, after the holy Eucharistic liturgy, the prayer most apt for preserving faith in souls

I'm just telling you how their own website reads. Thus the link. Click on the link. And answer the questions I posed.

I see that Fr. Gruner attempted a simple mission, one for which I suspect he didn't expect to encounter SUCH opposition from the highest levels of the Vatican, even dragging him before a rigged tribunal (where conflict of interest was the rule among his judges). And he persists because it is a holy cause. If it was deemed important for Our Blessed Mother to say these things to Sr. Lucy, if Fatima was so important that it added to Catholic devotion in the 20th century, and it did, if it even seems that those in the Vatican since John 23rd have decided not to honor Our Lady's request, and then produced a horribly self-contradictory document when they did publish what they represented as the one and only note containing this last secret, then surely he believes that it is a continuing holy calling and mission, more now than ever, particularly in the face of that. In his position, I hope and pray that I would feel the same, against such opposition that he might even count His Holiness, were his holiness self-aware and of sound mind rather than the feeble Theoden, as it were, to Saruman's worm-tongue (he signed the writ this morning, says the bitterly possessed Wormtongue as he holds up the order against Eomer in LOTR, Peter Jackson retelling).

217 posted on 02/18/2005 3:35:21 AM PST by sevry
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To: sevry
You SEEM to be complaining that Sister Lucy never wrote this in her letter to Don Umberto Pasquale. Yet they cite "Quoted by L?Osservatore Romano in 1984," as well as Fr. Michel.

Not complaining, just stating the obvious impossibility of Our Lady ever telling Sister Lucy that the Rosary is, after the holy Eucharistic liturgy, the prayer most apt for preserving faith in souls. As such, it is obvious that it is not the *real* third secret at all, rather, it is a lie.

Do you expect that it would not be found in a particular issue of L?Osservatore Romano, or that they got it wrong - or even if I ask you to explain yourself - WOULD YOU? more the point - CAN YOU? What exactly is your complaint?

I have no complaint - I was done doing that some 35 years ago when the revolution was squeezing the faith out of the whole Church. These days, thanks to the revolution, people are too easily mis-lead by the likes of Fr. Gruner's half truths.

Do you believe that in the *real* third secret, Our Lady told Sister Lucy that the Eucharistic liturgy (novus ordo) was the best way for preserving the faith? - again, here is the snip: And since the Rosary is, after the holy Eucharistic liturgy, the prayer most apt for preserving faith in souls

222 posted on 02/19/2005 3:15:35 AM PST by Stubborn (It Is The Mass That Matters)
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