Posted on 02/25/2005 10:22:56 AM PST by NYer
A high-school classmate of mine (Marquette University High) went to the Jesuit Order, became a priest, and then, because he was a queer, left and went Episcopalian in San Fran.
I understand that he was the rector of the ECUSA Cathedral out there. Somehow, I forgot to keep up...
In the USA during the 1950's, it was the custom for the organist to play a recessional tune--not for the choir or congregation to sing one. However, many hymns were published in German Catholic hymnbooks, which offers the possibility that hymns were sung before or after Mass by the German Catholics, anyway...
The hymn-nization of "recessionals" occurred with the perversion of VatII liturgical regs, under the tender and mal-formed guidance of such luminaries as Rembert Weakland, OSB.
Of interest: pre-VatII, absolutely NOTHING could be said or sung in the native language during the Mass--only Latin could be used. Thus, those German hymns would HAVE to have been sung pre- or post-Missam.
Wow! You too!
I was at a dog trial last weekend over an hour from home, which meant that in order to meet my Sunday obligation I had to attend a church about 2 miles from the show venue.
The place was NUTTY! The architecture was that bizarre modern "church in the round" stuff, the music was ultra-modern Haugen/Haas repetitive nonsense, the priest acted more like an MC at a game show -- eek.
And to think that I'll pretty much HAVE to attend there whenever we have a two day dog trial . . . well, I guess it's my cross to bear. At least the dog gets to stay in the parking lot, she would howl if she had to listen to that music . . .
Alan Jones? He was dean of Grace Cathedral when I lived in SF and still is. I think he is, or at least was, married. I tend to bounce between the Episcopal and Catholic churches, depending upon where I live, never quite commited to one or the other.
They have the infamous labyrinth at Grace Cathedral. I saw a traveling version of it when it came to my hometown. Couldn't take it seriously. While others attempted piety, I couldn't resist playing hopscotch.
Arrogant Bustard - astute observation regarding the absence of the Tabernacle.
Our pastor periodically reminds the congregants that before liturgy, it is a time to pray in silence, especially in the presence of the Lord.
One of the nice things about the Eastern Rites is that everyone gathers after liturgy, for refreshments and conversation. It is a time for fellowship that we all enjoy; hence there is no rush out the doors. Everyone remains until the end of Divine Liturgy.
Don Fehrenbach was his name.
It's also possible that Fehrenbach worked in your ECUSA Chancery office...
For some reason, I think he died a few years ago--which means about the time he turned 50.
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In my Church, where we use the 1962 missal for our Latin Masses, hardly anyone leaves even after the "recessional" hymn. We have Benediction after low mass, and Compline after sung masses. It tends to break one's concentration when the smell of the incense starts to be supplanted by the aroma of coffee and donuts in the adjacent parish hall, but it's nice that the "obligation" is to us a "privilege".
The name sounds familiar, but I cannot connect a face. Sorry to hear your friend/acquaintance died. Perhaps from "the virus?" So many really interesting fellows in SF succumbed to AIDS much too young. I did know a gay Catholic priest, however, who had AIDS and was spreading it around as fast as he could. A PINO. He was a friend of a friend, so I couldn't help running into him at social events. It was all I could do to keep from punching him in the face. I'm sure he's long gone.
From the flying pan into the fire......
Yep, I know exactly what you feel! I dread traveling because unless I've heard from someone about good and bad parishes in an area, I have to hope that what I read on their web sites is an indication of their "kosherness." Unfortunately, that isn't always the case. Unless I know otherwise, I've decided when I travel from now on, that as much as I can, if there is an Anglican-Use parish or Eastern Rite Catholic parish within a 45-60 minute drive from where I'm going, that I will attend them.
Your dog is blessed in not having to hear the schlock, the poor thing would probably get so upset she'd shed all her fur!
Seriously, when I'm practicing she lies down under the piano and smiles.
Am I right to assume this St. James is in N. Va.?
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