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To: ultima ratio
Sounds like a suggestion to me.
But on this matter too, to rouse the torpid and increasingly inspire those who are running well, We said that We hoped truly suitable men worthy of so important an office would be recommended to avoid the necessity of Our ever having to appoint to a vacant See someone apart from those recommended. This was provided for also in the procedure We established in 1853[48] for exactly the same purpose. We have heard that some have interpreted these otherwise mild words to mean that We would disregard and even deride the recommendations of the synod. Others have gone even further and developed a theory that a proposal to entrust the care of the Armenians to Latin bishops is veiled in these words. Such foolish accusations indeed deserve no answer: for only fearful and foolish men could utter such statements. But We considered that We should not keep silence on Our right to elect a bishop apart from the three recommended candidates, in case the Apostolic See should be compelled to exercise this right in the future. But even if We had remained silent, this right and duty of the See of blessed Peter would have remained unimpaired. (Bl. Pius IX, Quartus Supra)

It's the same principle as stated here, and the SSPXers act just like the Armenian "neo-schismatics" in twisting the words of the Catholics.

62 posted on 03/06/2005 7:30:43 PM PST by gbcdoj ("That renowned simplicity of blind obedience" - St. Ignatius)
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To: gbcdoj

Look I refuse to dialogue in this way. You keep posting irrelevancies. Anybody can cut and paste. That is not appropriate on these forums to the extent you indulge that technique. It bogs one down--and loses the forest for the trees. Besides, you're starting to get nasty. You've begun to use the charge of schism--which is scurrilous. If pressed, you will cite the canon originally intended for the CPA--all of which would be irrelevant, given the exception allowed by canon 1323. Until you concede that point, that the Archbishop had a perfect right to evoke that canon, there's no use in continuing to debate the issue since you will be denying both law and reason. You deny an emergency exists. I don't--I believe such a systemic collapse of the Church not only happened, but it was intended at the very top. I also believe the true Church survives not in Rome which is largely apostate, but in traditionalist communities of Catholic faithful around the globe.


69 posted on 03/06/2005 8:39:41 PM PST by ultima ratio
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