Posted on 03/23/2005 12:34:45 PM PST by siunevada
Anyone care to give odds on that?
“the use of the death penalty cannot really be mended, it must be ended.”
Somebody's lifting Jesse's chops. Give the Rev his due, Cardinal.
"...The death penalty in our land is deeply flawed.” Demonstrating this reality, Kirk Bloodsworth told his story of coming into the Catholic faith on death row..
This, to me, is the strongest argument. The application has to be as close to perfect as we can get. The number of guys exonerated indicates something is wrong with the process.
. . .names - mean things. . .
Mistakes are made as well; no doubt; in the 'process' of exoneration. . .
While a personal proponent of the death penalty, I applaud the Catholics for consistently valuing life (even murderous life), especially in the face of the liberal's death cult.
Unalterably opposed to the death penalty, totally silent on abortion & euthanasia. Way to go, Your Eminences!
Also I used to know someone who informed me of the costs of keeping someone on death row. Let 'em rot! :)
Disagree vehemently. That is what we mean by moral relativism.here are the same people who want to do away withTerri Schiavo and not apply the death penalty to a clearly convicted murderer.This represents a loss of the compass of morality.
You're right on! And I eagerly await the left wing choir demanding the Bishops stay out of matters of government policy.
"Mistakes are made as well; no doubt; in the 'process' of exoneration. . ."
Exactly, and what's the tally of innocent lives lost on death row and innocently lives lost because certain people *weren't* on death row? What about lives lost because, given the present legal system, the perpetrator of murder did not fear that he would end up on death row?
Personally, I accept that our justice system is fallible and some innocent people will be executed, just as some innocents will spend life in prison and numerous others will spend less lengthy sentences. I am likewise resigned that enjoying the privilege of automobiles will result in a (large) number of innocent deaths, every year. However, I value the expedience that cars afford more than the risk involved, and I do not think anyone would call this a morbid position--it is simply a practical one.
By all means, do everything you can to ensure the justice system protects the innocent. But more lives would be saved by reinstituting public hangings than would ever be saved by issuing blanket stays on executions.
"Disagree vehemently. That is what we mean by moral relativism.here are the same people who want to do away withTerri Schiavo and not apply the death penalty to a clearly convicted murderer.This represents a loss of the compass of morality."
If you're talking about Catholics, the Catholic position is that euthanasia is wrong and the Vatican has spoken out vehemently against the judge-sactioned execution of Terri Schiavo.
What is the Catholic position on capital punishment for murder?
Lord, deliver us from these heretics, apostates and perverts.
Catechism of Trent required the death penalty to insure justice and redress righteous grievances. Christian forgiveness is for victims, not the state.
I am about as hardcore conservative as they get, and yet I find that I cannot support the death penalty. I don't think the state should be allowed to take the life of it's own citizens, ever. That's not to say I'm not in favor of very harsh prison sentences and conditions. A murderer should be kept in solitary for life, and should be allowed full access to tools necessary for him to do the right thing himself.
I think most of that has been done with DNA. The odds of a mistake are in the trillions. The Illinois cases are disturbing. Some of the evidence in some of the cases was obviously falsified.
Exactly right!
The "Bishops," should concentrate first on cleaning their act and get rid off of all the perversion among their own.
Comparing Schiavo to killers who deserve to die(i.e. the one we just experienced in Georgia/Fla, who killed the little girl) is confusing pears and apples... Or should I say boys with girls? [sarcasm]
I encourage Catholics not to listen to this ***holes bishops, until they come out clean!
Opposed.
Exoneration is almost unheard of. What they mean is that the death penalty is reversed, almost always due to technicalities, or failure to present cause for doubt.
It's the RELATIVE lack of noise about abortion and euthenasia which is sickening, vile, repulsive, and demonic.
Amen, I guess it is easier to champion murders, you get all the Lefties on your side.
If they had any backbone they would do the same to stop abortion and euthanasia, you know euthanasia, like what is being done to Terri Schiavo.
Want to get the Good Fathers to react, stop the money, they will be all ears.
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