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What I believe about the end of the age.
today | Darren Morrison

Posted on 03/27/2005 7:38:26 AM PST by RMrattlesnake

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To: bigeasy_70118
Ummm, if we caught Satan, why would we let him go?

Every hour of every day there are charismatics who "bind Satan". You can hear them say the majic words, "I bind you Satan in the name of Jeeeesuuuuuus."

The question is, who keeps letting him loose?

21 posted on 03/28/2005 5:31:51 PM PST by Earl_of_Nottingham ("It is Augustine who gave us the Reformation."...B. B. Warfield)
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To: BipolarBob

***you can't look soemthing up you have no don't know how to spell.***

If you can't be bothered with looking something up and getting your research right, why should anyone bother with a single word you say?
So Pilgrim slams RMR on spelling and he has a mis-spelling in his tagline, hmmm . . . .


22 posted on 03/28/2005 6:39:58 PM PST by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rearview mirror.)
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To: RMrattlesnake

***You must only ber a Christan to those who can spell.***

No, you flat out admitted that you didn't lookup Preterism because you couldn't spell it, not because you have dyslexia. If you have a reference on Preterism, then why couldn't you have simply looked up the spelling of the word from your reference. This is what I do when I can't remember how a word is spelled. I have no idea why you think your dyslexia has anything to do with anything.

BTW, you aren't the only one on this forum with dyslexia and you aren't the only one who has reading and or learning challenges.

In the service of the Lord,
Christian.


23 posted on 03/28/2005 7:54:41 PM PST by thePilgrim (He that hideth his sinnes, shall not prosper: he that confesses, and forsakes them, shall haue mercy)
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To: Earl_of_Nottingham

***Every hour of every day there are charismatics who "bind Satan". You can hear them say the majic words, "I bind you Satan in the name of Jeeeesuuuuuus."

The question is, who keeps letting him loose?***

HA! Very funny. Too bad that Charismatics (and Christians in general) haven't figured out what an itty bitty putty tat he really is. From my perspective (Eph 2:6), he can't touch anyone without permission from his Lord (Job 1-2 for starters). And, maybe one of these days Christians in general will figure out that a stronger than Satan has come and He bound the strong man right before He began to plunder his house (Mat 12:29).

In the service of the Lord,
Christian.


24 posted on 03/28/2005 8:04:19 PM PST by thePilgrim (He that hideth his sinnes, shall not prosper: he that confesses, and forsakes them, shall haue mercy)
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To: BipolarBob

***So Pilgrim slams RMR on spelling and he has a mis-spelling in his tagline, hmmm . . . .***

No, silly boy, that is exactly how my Bible spells the words. BTW, I also have a terrible habit of regressing to my Scot/ English heritage and spelling words in ways you might also think is wrong. My complaint was that he admitted to not even looking up a word because he couldn't spell it. Well, how could he have possibly researched the topic and have any kind of scholarship on the subject without having the proper spelling for the word?

In the service of the Lord,
Christian.


25 posted on 03/28/2005 8:10:04 PM PST by thePilgrim (He that hideth his sinnes, shall not prosper: he that confesses, and forsakes them, shall haue mercy)
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To: RMrattlesnake
a lot of it was verbal information

I don't trust verbal research. Nothing personal, but "verbal research" is unverifiable. I can't go to the library and pick up "verbal research."

At the same time, the fact that you were unable to look up what Preterism and Amillenialism means that you cannot be an expert on the topic. Your dyslexia has little to do with that; it just means that all you know about preterism and amillenialism is what you've been told by someone whose biases are unknown to us. I don't know if your source wrestled with who the genea that will not pass away before Mat. 24 is fullfilled is. I don't know if your sources examined the writings of Justin Martyr or Augustine. I don't know if your sources have dealt with the fact that dispensational premillenialism was an unknown until it was taught by an obscure Anglican separatist itinerant preacher in the 1830's.

In short, I can't tell if your sources know anything at all beyond what they believe.

26 posted on 03/28/2005 8:39:48 PM PST by jude24 (The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then gets elected and proves it.)
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To: bigeasy_70118
The prophecy that he will be loosed for a short while speaks volumes to the nature of all angels and humans. I associate it with the same reason New Yorkers voted for Hillary.

Some angels must be damnedYankees!

27 posted on 03/28/2005 8:51:03 PM PST by Cvengr (<;^))
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To: jude24

You forgot to mention that you don't know Scripture teaches premillenialism.


28 posted on 03/28/2005 8:54:41 PM PST by Cvengr (<;^))
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To: RMrattlesnake

nice post.


29 posted on 03/28/2005 8:55:34 PM PST by Cvengr (<;^))
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To: roylene
I'm with you. I've studied all of them, and I'm a Pan-Tribulationist, however it pans out, I'm on board. There's no way I'm saying, "Hey, it's not time yet! Put me back!"

Jack Hayford did a very interesting series on Revelation. I personally believe that we are spared the wrath of God, but not the tribulation, and that the rapture occurs at the seventh trumpet. The idea that we're spared much of the end times is a peculiarly Western idea, because Christians in the US have never experienced serious persecution. Talk to the Saints in China, Russia, or North Korea.

30 posted on 03/28/2005 9:01:41 PM PST by Richard Kimball (It was a joke. You know, humor. Like the funny kind. Only different.)
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To: RMrattlesnake
It's Latin, not Greek. The Greek word is kelethmos.
31 posted on 03/29/2005 1:36:04 AM PST by John Locke
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To: Cvengr
you don't know Scripture teaches premillenialism.

Ah, but I do. I know the proof-texts that premillenialists use. I'm aware of the broader contraversey, however.

Do realize: I grew up Plymouth Brethren, which is unabashedly premillenial. I know quite well what premillenialism teaches. I simply question its foundation.

Not all who disagree are ignorant.

32 posted on 03/29/2005 4:30:38 AM PST by jude24 (The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then gets elected and proves it.)
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To: thePilgrim
HA! Very funny. Too bad that Charismatics (and Christians in general) haven't figured out what an itty bitty putty tat he really is. From my perspective (Eph 2:6), he can't touch anyone without permission from his Lord (Job 1-2 for starters). And, maybe one of these days Christians in general will figure out that a stronger than Satan has come and He bound the strong man right before He began to plunder his house (Mat 12:29).

Unfortunately Satan has been given much more power than he actually has by charismatics and Christians of other persuasions, alomost to the point of the dualistic concept of the gnostics, not realizing that Christ made a spectacle of the powers of darkness on the Cross and bound Satan through the Atonement, Resurrection and the Truth of the Gospel.

Satan is a toothless dog on a short leash.

33 posted on 03/29/2005 7:42:06 AM PST by Earl_of_Nottingham ("It is Augustine who gave us the Reformation."...B. B. Warfield)
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To: Richard Kimball
Great analysis. I will have to find Jack Hayford's work. I must admit I have not heard of him. Thanks for the info.
He has risen! No, check that... He is risen!
34 posted on 03/29/2005 8:52:31 AM PST by roylene
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To: roylene
Hayford's a charismatic. I don't agree with all of his beliefs (I'm particularly skeptical about speaking in tongues), but I find him to be a man who studies the Bible and has an informed perspective.

I think all of us have some error in our beliefs, and that God is merciful in forgiving error, so long as we understand the big issues, namely, He's God, we're not. We get into Heaven through grace not works, and Christ died for our sins.

35 posted on 03/29/2005 9:34:05 AM PST by Richard Kimball (It was a joke. You know, humor. Like the funny kind. Only different.)
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