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To: Romulus; bornacatholic; Wessex; pgkdan; Salvation
It's almost humorous how ostrich-like many treat any criticism of the previous pontiff immediately by branding it as "protestant", "schismatic", "hateful", "nuts", without even as much discussing the objective merits of the argument presented. The author presented objective facts and formed a conclusion; in response, you all present ad hominem attacks and dismissive remarks. Fine if you don't agree with him, but at least give some evidence and analysis to the support your response. It actually gives more credibility to the article that none can give an adequate argument to the contrary of his suppositions.

At least look have the honesty to consider at how we have arrived to the present crisis in the Church... do you deny that we are infected by the sum of all heresies, which the Pope himself acknowledged, or do you deny that he had any responsibility to stop it and not implicitly encourage it?

37 posted on 04/09/2005 12:12:08 PM PDT by nonsumdignus (Is Sainthood your Goal?)
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To: nonsumdignus
Fine if you don't agree with him, but at least give some evidence and analysis to the support your response.

OK. Ferrara's a prevaricator. He said there were no women, or lay readers at JPII's funeral.

There were, in fact, both.

If he didn't watch the Mass, he should say so. But don't try to pull a fast one on those who did.

40 posted on 04/09/2005 12:32:54 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: nonsumdignus
The Catholic’s first instinct is to observe the death of a Pope with silence and prayer, reserving until the appropriate time any sort of analysis of the relative merits and demerits of the just-concluded pontificate. Such analysis is inevitable with every Pope’s passing. But the mass media are not going to allow us the usual period of circumspection,

< I stand corrected. Ferrara isn't responsible. The Mass Media made him attack the Pope and abandon "circumspection."

Typical liberal. Blaming others for his failings.

48 posted on 04/09/2005 3:00:51 PM PDT by bornacatholic
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To: nonsumdignus

"It's almost humorous how ostrich-like many treat any criticism of the previous pontiff immediately by branding it as "protestant", "schismatic", "hateful", "nuts", without even as much discussing the objective merits of the argument presented."


It seems that many on here will fight to the death to preserve the myths surrounding JPII. Hopefully, his life will now be realistically and dispassionately compared with the long line of his predecessors and not be isolated from them as though he were a man apart. The election of a new pope should deflect the minds of those who are into personality cults and allow JPII to rest more easily.


50 posted on 04/09/2005 4:46:58 PM PDT by Wessex
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