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My take on Huntington's Clash of Civilizations

Posted on 04/12/2005 4:34:47 PM PDT by Lord Nelson

Finished reading this. I don't totally agree with him. He overplays the importance of culture and downplays the importance of ideology. For instance I feel Japan will take sides with the West before it ever would with China.

One point that got my attention was his suggestion that Latin America will move closer to North America both economically and diplomatically. I wonder if we will see new reconciliation between the Catholic and Protestant churches - realizing that our differences are miniscule and we need to get on the same page to resist the emergence of the Apostate Church.

There already appears some congruence - with Protestant and Catholic resistance to SSM, the murder of Shiavo, ect...


TOPICS: General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: bookreview; clashofcivilizations

1 posted on 04/12/2005 4:34:48 PM PDT by Lord Nelson
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To: Lord Nelson
Well, most of Latin America seems to be moving into North America as it is, so I guess we're all going to "get closer," so to speak, regardless.

As for Protestant & Catholic reconciliation, I think that has all but happened in areas of culture & politics. Conservative Catholics and Protestants already have much more in common that their liberal, secular opponents. Theological differences, I'm afraid, will prevent a genuine re-convergence of the two branches of Christianity. But that's okay: the two sides agree on just about everything else, and are natural allies.

2 posted on 04/12/2005 4:42:20 PM PDT by A Jovial Cad ("I had no shoes and I complained, until I saw a man who had no feet.")
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To: Lord Nelson

Congratulations. He is extremely boring. I prefer Bernard Lewis a lot better.


3 posted on 04/12/2005 4:42:27 PM PDT by econ_grad
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To: Lord Nelson
SSM=?

Europe is being overtaken by islam (TROP). That should be a major concern and unifying catalyst.

4 posted on 04/12/2005 4:43:20 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rearview mirror.)
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To: Lord Nelson

If in a few years Iraq has a functioning and legitimate government wouldn't that tend to disprove the theory?


5 posted on 04/12/2005 6:45:16 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: Lord Nelson
As to the reunification of Christendom, well it is already happening, in Asia.

For instance, in South Korea Lutherans and Catholics regularly hold worship together (though not communion). In the US or Europe, that would cause a major scandal.
6 posted on 04/13/2005 5:15:31 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: A Jovial Cad

Obviously there will always be small items such as infant baptism, ect, ect… No, I don’t see a unification, but that’s OK, and probably would be undesirable anyways. I have matured, as I use to have plenty of animosity towards Catholicism, but now realize there is bigger fish to fry – such as the non-Christian Christian organizations, that want to accommodate the way of the world. Catholics seem to share my insistence on not tolerating or making any concessions to the world on black and white issues. Killing babies for stem cells – no matter how many people will be healed by it – just does not wash for me.


7 posted on 04/27/2005 3:27:00 PM PDT by Lord Nelson
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To: econ_grad

He writes like a typical snotty University professor. I love CS Lewis, and I know he too was a University professor, but he wrote with tremendous humility and incredible insight to the nature of man – ie. Lewis observed the dangers of Post Modernism before it was named.


8 posted on 04/27/2005 3:36:13 PM PDT by Lord Nelson
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To: Libertarianize the GOP

It would work towards disproving it, yes. I'm a skeptic however. I would have opted for partition - a Kurdish nation, ect ...


9 posted on 04/27/2005 3:39:19 PM PDT by Lord Nelson
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To: Lord Nelson

I wonder if he is related to Bernard Lewis.


10 posted on 04/27/2005 7:52:18 PM PDT by econ_grad
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To: econ_grad

Lewis had a brother? What did Bernard right?


11 posted on 04/27/2005 8:45:00 PM PDT by Lord Nelson
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To: Lord Nelson

I doubt it. Bernard Lewis is still alive. He is old but not as old as CS.


12 posted on 04/27/2005 8:51:56 PM PDT by econ_grad
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To: Lord Nelson
The nation state is a superior model to the Arab Muslim tradition of tribalism and if the current Iraq government works it will help prevent a Clash of Civilizations. Partitioning Iraq would reinforce the tribal structure and its inherent problems.
13 posted on 04/28/2005 1:11:47 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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I suppose that's a reasonable argument. Some nations such as the Czechs realized they could not live together with the Slovaks and have a much better relationship now.

The Kurds will certainly moderate the government from becoming another anti-American terrorist-supporting state. I feel sorry for the Kurds and hope they truly get to participate freely in this new democracy.
14 posted on 04/28/2005 4:47:18 PM PDT by Lord Nelson
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As somebody said politics is war by other means. This may force the various tribes to master politics between tribes not just within thier own tribe. I like the Kurds but if they get their own nation it will encompass parts of Turkey and Iran which is why it won't happen.


15 posted on 04/28/2005 5:38:07 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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