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1 posted on 04/16/2005 4:15:14 PM PDT by NYer
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Laity's Holiness and John Paul II's Popularity - Interview With Fr Peter Gumpel

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2 posted on 04/16/2005 4:18:08 PM PDT by NYer ("America needs much prayer, lest it lose its soul." John Paul II)
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If Cardinal Ratzinger is elected, there'll be no end of temper tantrums thrown by the usual suspects. How many of them will actually have the brass to walk, though?


3 posted on 04/16/2005 4:23:22 PM PDT by Loyalist (This tagline has been sponsored by the Committee to Elect Cardinal Ratzinger.)
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Fr. Peter Gumpel was especially appreciative of the work of Ronald Rychlak, Joseph Bottum, David Dalin, and others who have written in First Things in response to the many libelous attacks on Pius XII, such as John Cornwell's vulgar and dishonest book, Hitler's Pope. Gumpel spoke movingly of meetings with John Paul in which the late pope expressed his fervent hope that he would live long enough to beatify his esteemed predecessor. That was not to be, but Fr. Gumpel is confident Pius will be beatified in due course.

The shrill and hysterical vilification of Pius XII was, oddly enough, one of the things that turned me towards the Catholic Church. It became obviously pretty quickly that these folks had an axe to grind -- I was curious as to why, and what they stood to gain. One thing led to another . . .

6 posted on 04/16/2005 6:11:10 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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Wow! This Catholic never had a clue that so many popes had been declared saints.


7 posted on 04/16/2005 6:32:09 PM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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"To which I counter, "Does declaring him a saint mean that other popes were not so saintly?" "

Well, maybe and yeah and I can live with that. What are we supposed to believe now? That all popes are created equal, remain equal, and are equally saintly? Beg to disagree with the distinguished Reverend Neuhaus on this line of argument. That said, John Paul II will be known in the future, by all concerned, as Saint John Paul the Great.
8 posted on 04/16/2005 6:51:09 PM PDT by SolomoninSouthDakota (Daschle is gone.)
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the "rock star" attraction of John Paul

In a literally fundamental sense, ALL popes are "rock" stars.

19 posted on 04/18/2005 10:04:06 AM PDT by Romulus (Golly...suddenly I feel strangely SEDEVACANTIST!)
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