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Benedict XVI: The Pope and His Agenda
La Chiesa ^ | April 20, 2005 | Sandro Magister

Posted on 04/20/2005 9:54:13 AM PDT by NYer

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To: NYer
Swooning... it's just not right to be this happy! :-) I keep thinking something bad is about to happen... :-(

Wish I had bought on of those coffee mugs from 'the ratzinger fan club' when I saw them a couple of years ago --- 'putting the smackdown on heresy since 1981' - now they are all out of them!

21 posted on 04/20/2005 3:58:27 PM PDT by american colleen (Long live Benedict XVI!)
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To: NYer
How cool is this pic?

Bunch of seminarians in St. Peter's as the new pope, Benedict XVI was announced.


22 posted on 04/20/2005 4:03:29 PM PDT by american colleen (Long live Benedict XVI!)
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To: american colleen
That IS one cool pic.

The "JPII" seminarians appear to approve.

23 posted on 04/20/2005 4:14:29 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: Fudd Fan

I think I heard her say in an interview that Ratzinger (this is before his election) does not truly believe in the prophecies of Fatima. This may be the reason why she doesn't seem to be happy about the situation.


24 posted on 04/20/2005 4:43:02 PM PDT by TrishaSC
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To: AnAmericanMother

Nice to see lots of young and clean cut priests! There have been a few Legionaires interviewed on the various news stations... they are happy and articulate and faithful, very uplifting!


25 posted on 04/20/2005 4:56:36 PM PDT by american colleen (Long live Benedict XVI!)
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To: RobbyS
But why is i t that modernists hate beauty?

For some it's not that they hate beauty, it's that they hate beauty in the Church. When you have an agenda that is contrary to that of any institution, you can't further the agenda until you weaken or deconstruct the existing institution.

Some are innocent, but many realize exactly what they are doing. They know full well that our sacred music, which has its roots in times before Christ walked the earth is extremely powerful. It can convert on its own accord. They know it is essential to puvlerize the mass that converted the world and changed human history. They realize how beautuful our women look in veils and how mysterious our brothers and sisters look in the clothing of their vocation. Most of all they know the power of the Gospel, which comes from the Anglo Old-English word "Godspell".

They're not dumb. Which is why they've gotten away with as much as they have.

I'm not presenting anything new here. The Nazi's, Chicoms, Bolsheviks and any other tools of the enemy realized that they had to wipe out the existing traditions and history in order to flourish.

26 posted on 04/20/2005 5:15:49 PM PDT by AAABEST (Kyrie eleison - Christe eleison †)
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To: NYer
I am absolutely loving Pope Benedict more each time I read what he has written or said. And I really like this writer too.

During the 1960’s, the young Ratzinger followed the second Vatican Council as an expert consultant for the cardinal of Cologne, Joseph Frings. He launched his first darts against the Holy Office, “out of step with the times and a cause of harm and scandal,” which he would direct many years later. But very soon after the end of the council, he began to denounce its effects, which were “crudely divergent” from what was to be expected.

"Crudely divergent", so exact, so perfectly stated. I went to the library today to begin reading some of his works, and everything was gone. There was a mad rush earlier, evidently. The only book I could get my hands on, via another branch, was Salt of The Earth. I should have that in a few days, and can't wait to begin reading it.

His was a strange conservatism, in any case. It was apt to disturb, rather than pacify, the Church. One of his favorite models is Saint Charles Borromeo, the archbishop of Milan who, after the Council of Trent, did nothing less than “reconstruct the Catholic Church, which was almost destroyed in the area around Milan as well, without returning to the Middle Ages to do so; on the contrary, he created a modern form of the Church.”

Interesting. So much reading, so little time.

..not conforming itself to the times, not falling to its knees before the world, but “bringing, with holy consternation, the gift of faith to all, the gift of friendship with Christ.”

Again, wonderful imagery. What a beautiful phrase holy consternation is!

He prefers the missionary impulse to timid dialogue with nonbelievers and men of other faiths.

Smart. Very smart. The missionary impusle acutally lives, dialogue is alive in the sense a plant is alive. Beautiful, necessary but not suffient unto itself; inferior nutrients.

“How often we celebrate only ourselves, without even taking Him into account,” he commented in his meditations for the Stations of the Cross last Good Friday. Here, “Him” refers to Jesus Christ, the one forgotten by liturgies changed into convivial gatherings.

Heartbreaking, but true.

As a cardinal, Benedict XVI also criticized the endless succession of saints and blesseds that pope Wojtyla raised to the honors of the altar: in many cases, these were “persons who might perhaps say something to a certain group, but do not say much to the great multitude of believers.” As an alternative, he proposed “bringing to the attention of Christianity only those figures who, more than all others, make visible to us the holy Church, amid so many doubts about its holiness.”

I agree wholeheartedly. It's no good devaluing Sainthood.

27 posted on 04/20/2005 5:19:17 PM PDT by AlbionGirl (May the Lord guide your steps, Pope Benedict, and may he grant you loyal and honest advisors.)
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To: TrishaSC
think I heard her say in an interview that Ratzinger (this is before his election) does not truly believe in the prophecies of Fatima.

For whatever reason Ratzinger had for suppressing the Fatima secret, he may reap the consequences as the prophecied bishop in white who flees Rome and dies a cruel death. It would be a strange, sad twist of fate.

28 posted on 04/20/2005 6:05:41 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: All
For those interested:

Dominus Jesus - On the Unicity and Salvific Universality of Jesus Christ and the Church

29 posted on 04/20/2005 6:47:44 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: american colleen
I find the comparison of these two photos amusing. First the young, joyful exuberant faces of the priests, may God Bless them, after the announcement:

Now take a look at some the cardinals faces after the announcement:


30 posted on 04/20/2005 7:09:17 PM PDT by murphE (Never miss an opportunity to kiss the hand of a holy priest.)
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To: murphE
LOL! Thanks so much, I can't stop laughing at this.

Four things I heard about our holy father today: he likes a beer 'after work' he walked to his apartment to 'pick up his stuff' he gave the homily in latin and he was wearing some sort of t-shirt instead of an expensive french shirt and cufflinks under the traditional pope garb when he was announced on the balcony (guess you can see it in some of the pics around).

I think he's a pretty fun guy. I think we are in for a ride here. I wanna get on it.

31 posted on 04/20/2005 7:19:13 PM PDT by american colleen (Long live Benedict XVI!)
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To: american colleen

That second one from the left just kills me. =D


32 posted on 04/20/2005 7:28:41 PM PDT by murphE (Never miss an opportunity to kiss the hand of a holy priest.)
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That picture of the young guys is just perfect!

I can't tell if the Cardinals are just tired or this bunch just didn't agree...difference between being 20something and 70+ after a long hard two weeks?


33 posted on 04/20/2005 7:33:54 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Hmmm, I only get the red x for a broken image. A shame.


34 posted on 04/20/2005 7:39:07 PM PDT by Romish_Papist (The times are out of step with the Catholic Church. God Bless Pope Benedict XVI!!!!)
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To: TattooedUSAFConservative

Copy and paste from properties works wonders. Those are my kind of priests! Seeing priests like that makes me incredibly jealous! :) God Bless 'em!


35 posted on 04/20/2005 7:41:26 PM PDT by Romish_Papist (The times are out of step with the Catholic Church. God Bless Pope Benedict XVI!!!!)
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To: american colleen
Four things I heard about our holy father today: he likes a beer 'after work'

Gee, I bet the pope and I have lots in common!

36 posted on 04/20/2005 7:50:39 PM PDT by old and tired
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To: NYer

I have been so busy the last couple of days -- not really had any time to post on these threads. My loss!


37 posted on 04/20/2005 7:53:57 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: murphE

Oh, LOL! I missed that picture before!


38 posted on 04/20/2005 7:56:48 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: murphE
Nah, looks like he's just got badly fitting dentures. I like the guy next to him - kind of in the background - hiding while clenching his teeth in a most painful way.

None of them look too thrilled but the last guy on the right at least looks like he's trying to put up a stiff upper lip.

Maybe it was the rising stench of the great unwashed masses below that set them off?

Thanks again for that pic... I still laugh when I look at it. Talk about joyful countenances raised to the Lord!

39 posted on 04/20/2005 8:11:37 PM PDT by american colleen (Long live Benedict XVI!)
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To: old and tired

Don't get too excited or above yourself... my atheist/agnostic/lapsed Lutheran husband likes to have a beer after work too. ;-)


40 posted on 04/20/2005 8:12:41 PM PDT by american colleen (Long live Benedict XVI!)
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