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The “Reform of the Reform” Has Already Begun (Benedict XVI Alert!)
La Chiese ^ | April 28, 2005 | Sandro Magister

Posted on 04/28/2005 10:53:14 AM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 04/28/2005 10:53:17 AM PDT by NYer
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To: american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...

A note on "Dominus Jesus"

Before he was elected pope, Joseph Ratzinger was best known and most fiercely opposed for one thing in particular: the August 6, 2000 declaration “Dominus Jesus,” “on the unicity and salvific universality of Jesus Christ and the Church.”

Benedict XVI did not cite this explicitly during his first week as pope. But in the opening mass of his pontificate, on Sunday, April 24, he did in fact repeat with great emphasis the central doctrine of “Dominus Jesus.” This doctrine is the nucleus of the faith of the New Testament.

In his homily, he said that his agenda is not “to pursue my own ideas, but to listen to the word and the will of the Lord, to be guided by Him.”

No sooner said than done. The first reading of the mass was from the Acts of the Apostles, chapter 4, in which Peter says of Jesus:

“There is no salvation in anyone else, for there is no other name in the whole world given to men by which we are to be saved.”

That same day, Sunday, April 24, in all the churches of the world the Gospel reading was from the fourteenth chapter of John, in which Jesus says of himself:

“I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but by me.”

2 posted on 04/28/2005 10:55:45 AM PDT by NYer ("Love without truth is blind; Truth without love is empty." - Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: NYer
2005.04.20: Music from First Mass of Benedict XVI, Sistine Chapel
2005.04.24: Music for Inauguration Mass, St. Peter's Square

Musically, these two Masses were quite congruent with the reforms proposed by Vatican II, and with certain reforms that preceded it. (The papal funeral, less the responsory Credo, may also be counted.)

3 posted on 04/28/2005 11:08:06 AM PDT by Aristotle721 (The Recovering Choir Director - www.cantemusdomino.net/blog)
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To: NYer
From this thread, and all I've read about Pope Benedict, I am getting the odd feeling that he may be so conservative in doctrine and praxis that we in the East will be happier with him than most of the traditionalists in the Latin church.

Congratulations to the Latin faithful and to the College of Cardinals on the selection.

4 posted on 04/28/2005 11:14:17 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will understand. . .)
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To: NYer
He went so far as to write: “They are the dead burying the dead, and they call it reform."

GOOD STUFF.

5 posted on 04/28/2005 11:16:49 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: The_Reader_David
I am getting the odd feeling that he may be so conservative in doctrine and praxis that we in the East will be happier with him than most of the traditionalists in the Latin church

That's good news.

of course, he himself has emphasized many times that the theologians closest to his heart are the Greek and Latin Fathers.

6 posted on 04/28/2005 11:19:31 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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All I can hope for now is that these reforms he seems to be enacting by example get pushed down to all the dicoeses and churches around the globe. The reform of the reform MUST be pushed out to all the churches for it to be effective. If that means writing it all down and sending it out to all the Bishops with the words "compliance is mandatory" or in a similar vein, then we can rest a bit easier.

Viva il Papa!

7 posted on 04/28/2005 12:06:32 PM PDT by Romish_Papist (The times are out of step with the Catholic Church. God Bless Pope Benedict XVI!!!!)
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To: TattooedUSAFConservative
If that means writing it all down and sending it out to all the Bishops with the words "compliance is mandatory" or in a similar vein, then we can rest a bit easier.

Sadly, this is impossible.

But happily, the best solution for liturgical problems is also the best solution for all the rest of the Church's problems.

If every bishop is selected for godliness and Christian obedience rather than for politicking and fundraising ability, then things will improve.

8 posted on 04/28/2005 12:10:57 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: The_Reader_David
From this thread, and all I've read about Pope Benedict, I am getting the odd feeling that he may be so conservative in doctrine and praxis that we in the East will be happier with him than most of the traditionalists in the Latin church.

Not sure about that. We're pretty happy right and optimistic at this point. Maybe the East and West will be one again within our lifetimes. As an enthusiast of eastern Christian history, I'd love to see it happen. Dare we hope?
9 posted on 04/28/2005 12:11:05 PM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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To: wideawake; Antoninus; The_Reader_David; NYer; TattooedUSAFConservative

"For Benedict XVI, in the great sweep of Christian history the mass, or Eucharist, is the sacrament that creates the Church. It is the model for the Church, and at the same time it presents the image of the Church to the world."

Given His Holiness' well know dedication to the patristic writings of the Fathers, I suspect that when he speaks of the Eucharist he in fact means the sacrament itself primarily and the Mass secondarily as that event during which the Eucharist is celebrated. His focus on the Eucharist as being definitional of the Church is very patristic. Among the earliest f the Fathers, +Ignatius of Antioch placed the Eucharist at the very center of The Church as is demonstrated by continuing themes in his letters like this snip from his Letter to the Philadelphians which also displays his image of the fullness of The Church subsisting in a single diocese:


"Take care, then, to partake of one Eucharist; for, one is the Flesh of Our Lord Jesus Christ, and one the cup to unite us with His Blood, and one altar, just as there is one bishop assisted by the presbytery and the deacons, my fellow servants. Thus you will conform in all your actions to the will of God."


10 posted on 04/28/2005 12:52:44 PM PDT by Kolokotronis ("Set a guard over my mouth, O Lord; keep watch over the door of my lips!" (Psalm 141:3))
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To: NYer

Bumping for a later read. This sure is going to be an exciting time!


11 posted on 04/28/2005 1:03:18 PM PDT by Lady In Blue ( President 'SEABISCUIT' AKA George W Bush)
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Outstanding! Did anybody notice at the Papal Installation Mass that at communion time, a female speaker advised Catholics in attendence to examine their consciences to make sure that they receive Our Lord in the right disposition(paraphrasing)?! I've seen a number of Masses at the Vatican but I don't ever recall people being reminded to examine their consciences! One more thing, again paraphrasing, non-Catholics were,in a nice way, told that since they were not in full communion,they could not receive.I could only make out every other word but that was the gist of it.


12 posted on 04/28/2005 1:34:41 PM PDT by Lady In Blue ( President 'SEABISCUIT' AKA George W Bush)
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To: The_Reader_David

Thank you,The_Reader_David for your wonderful remarks! I'm still so happy about the College of Cardinals electing Cardinal Ratzinger as Pope,that I'm still smiling! A lady at my parish said that she started dancing around when she heard about the election. She said that it was like the Cardinals,with this election, were "in your face" to the World.


13 posted on 04/28/2005 1:38:49 PM PDT by Lady In Blue ( President 'SEABISCUIT' AKA George W Bush)
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To: Lady In Blue

I noticed that, and you are right. That is the first time I had heard it, too. It was not said during the Funeral Mass.


14 posted on 04/28/2005 1:51:13 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple

I'm glad that you heard it too,Miss Marple! I wondered if anybody else heard it too.


15 posted on 04/28/2005 1:58:11 PM PDT by Lady In Blue ( President 'SEABISCUIT' AKA George W Bush)
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To: NYer

NYer, is it just me, but wasn't the gospel reading at this mass the same as the second reading?


16 posted on 04/28/2005 2:01:10 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Lady In Blue

Yes I heard that and I was very pleased.


17 posted on 04/28/2005 2:02:13 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Lady In Blue

A number of Orthodox friends noticed the same thing. In our parish the priests have been saying this, or basically this, for about 18 months. They remind the non-Orthodox that communion is reserved for the Orthodox since we are not in communion with them and then they remind the Orthodox that they may approach only if they are living their lives in accordance with the teachings of the Church, have properly prepared by seeking forgiveness from those they have wronged and fasted.


18 posted on 04/28/2005 2:22:26 PM PDT by Kolokotronis ("Set a guard over my mouth, O Lord; keep watch over the door of my lips!" (Psalm 141:3))
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To: The_Reader_David
we in the East will be happier with him than most of the traditionalists in the Latin church.

I doubt that you will be happier than I will.

But I am very pleased to hear that the Easterns are taking note.

Maybe even the Greek Orthodox??

19 posted on 04/28/2005 2:33:30 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Kolokotronis

Although I haven't seen him lately, I'm acquainted with a Greek Orthodox priest who is of the "conservative" persuasion here in Milwaukee.

I'll have to ask him what he thinks of B-16. Should be interesting...


20 posted on 04/28/2005 2:36:28 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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