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To: BlackElk
You also claimed and insisted repeatedly, pretending to know for certain that:

1) Archbishop Lefebvre served on the Roman Rota, which is false.

2) That Fr. Martin was not a priest in good standing, also proven false.

3) The catechism My Catholic Faith has a "schismatic publisher" and author, and editor, which is also false and easily verifiable.

These are just things I remember off the top of my head, I'd bet a search of your posts would reveal much more. Given your track record on spewing falsehoods, why anyone would take your word on something is beyond me.

24 posted on 05/14/2005 12:15:52 PM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: murphE; BlackElk
2) That Fr. Martin was not a priest in good standing, also proven false.

Where has this been "proven false"?

"In 1965, Mr. Martin received a dispensation from all privileges and obligations deriving from his vows as a Jesuit and from priestly ordination." [Congregation for Institutes of Consecrated Life and Societies of Apostolic Life, 25 June 1997, Prot. N. 04300/65]

3) The catechism My Catholic Faith has a "schismatic publisher"

Angelus Press is an organism of the SSPX schismatics.

and author

You are referring to this post, but I'm missing the part about "claimed and insisted repeatedly"?

31 posted on 05/14/2005 6:16:01 PM PDT by gbcdoj (Lord, to whom shall we go? Thou hast the words of eternal life.)
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To: murphE
Hey, Murph: Try to recognize reality now and then. Also, no Catholic has any obligation to note your existence much less to fence with the usual schismatic lies. Nonetheless:

As to the mixup on the two Lefebvres, I recall promptly conceding when corrected. That is more than your excommunicated Lefebvre or his followers do when they are corrected by actual papal authority (JP II) in Ecclesia Dei.

Show me where I EVER said that Malachi Martin was not a priest in good standing.

The Angelus Press is an organ of SSPX and therefore the statements as to schismatic publisher and authors and eitors ARE correct. You can deny papal authority exercised in Ecclesia Dei until the cows come home and, having eaten, provide you with new schismatic fantasies in solid form but a schism is a schism is a schism and an excommunication is an excommunicvation is an excommunication.

The excommunications and the declaration of schism are JP II's words in Ecclesia Dei and not mine. I just repeat the point for you and yours whenever you are lying about the status of SSPX and its leaders and its adherents. It is my personal hope that SSPX and its sycophants stay outside the Church. The Roman Catholic Church has far more important things to worry about than noticing SSPX and its stiff-necked ecclesiastically criminal leadership. With very public humiliation, renunciation, repentance and penance, perhaps the schismatics may persuade the relevant authorities to forgive. The bar should be set extremely high to match the ids in question.

You are not needed in the Roman Catholic Church. You are generally not wanted in the Roman Catholic Church except insofar as someone may suffer an overdose of charitable spirit towards those who showed no respect to JP II or his authority. Go nurse your incessant whining and grievances elsewhere.

50 posted on 05/14/2005 10:44:26 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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