[Salvation]

Do any of you have grandchildren who are unbaptized as I do? This subject concerns me, and this article seemed to be a good one to post for a discussion.

[lainde]

Bump for later read...Thanks for posting and interesting topic!

[sinkspur]

More recent resources continue to describe the teaching on limbo, but often with the sense that it is best viewed as a teaching that should simply be allowed to fade quietly away, a teaching that cannot be reconciled with the Christian affirmation of God’s universal salvific will. As Peter Phan puts it in Responses to 101 Questions on Death and Eternal Life, “limbo has outlived its purpose.”

It also seems that preaching and catechesis about limbo have largely disappeared since the Second Vatican Council, so that younger Catholics are often unaware of the teaching and unaffected by it. Certainly its absence from the Catechism of the Catholic Church officially confirms the closure of limbo as a place for unbaptized infants.

Source.

[Aliska]

Do any of you have grandchildren who are unbaptized as I do?

As dysfunctional as my family is, I believe all my grandchildren are baptized, whether properly or not I couldn't say, Methodist, Lutheran, possibly AOG, Episcopalian. One, even though baptized by a Methodist female preacher (seemed nice) according to the Trinitarian formula (I hope - they have traditionally used that) now claims to be an atheist.

Then there are my niece and nephew who were "baptized" in a Congretational church in some newfangled "naming ceremony", whatever that is. They have what I would consider an ultra-liberal, revisionist interpretation of Christianity. I wobble with my catholicism, but tend to have fundamentalist, traditional leanings about basic doctrine.

I'm worried about some of my immediate ancestors whom I'm pretty sure were never baptized and, of course, the atheist one.

It IS a concern, and no amount or articles are very reassuring because we simply DO NOT KNOW, no matter what the church said, then, now, or what some saint said.

In these "latter days" (meaning Christianity is now 2000 yearsold), I figure a lot of my protestant ancestors got disgusted with some of the "fruits" they witnessed of Christianity in America, the hypocrisy, denominational tug 'o wars, you name it. Also, they were farmers, and it wasn't easy to get into town to go to church regularly. I can only guess.

I pray for them all. That's all I or anyone can do and hope there really is such a thing as baptism of desire, that I can pray them out of purgatory, or something.

I'll bet I'm not alone in this, and I didn't read the article. It will just get me upset.