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To: BlackElk

You're really losing it aren't you? I hope that you will read your bible and see what the actually words say and trust that God wrote it for you and not for someone to spoon feed to you.


202 posted on 05/27/2005 11:04:12 AM PDT by biblewonk (Socialism isn't all bad.)
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To: biblewonk; ninenot; sittnick
If it were not for the Roman Catholic Church, you would not have a Bible to be in error in regard to. You operate under the obvious delusion that the ability to read and the possession of the Bible will suffice for you to enjoy the fullness of Christianity. It will not. The Church that preserved for you and gave you the Bible knows that far better than you.

That I disagree with you or with some self-appointed religious authority with whom you may agree (Jack Chick? Jimmy Swaggert? Whomever) and agree with the authorities of Jesus Christ's own Church whom He left with the keys and in charge of those who presume to interpret Scripture as they see fit without His authority must be soooooo offensive to you in that I reject your self-appointed authority. If the Bible were so obvious in meaning, then there would not be tens of thousands of squabbling "reformed" denominations (nowadays many of which simply claim to be "Christian" to avoid the obvious argument) each of which cherishes its own idiosyncratic imaginings as to Scriptural meaning as the one TRUE interpretation. Did Bishop Usher have it right that the World was created in six actual 24-hour-days in spite of the myriad of meanings of the Hebrew word (whose breathings are long lost along with the literal meaning they conveyed) used for "days" in Scriptural translation? Could be but then we have to believe that God caused the creation of a fraudulent and misleading archaeological record of dead dinosaurs which seems unlikely.

Can you pinpoint the hour and minute on a specific Thursday afternoon or whatever when it all began (as the soi-disant Bishop Usher claimed to be able to do by keeping his nose or whatever to those Scriptural and mathematical grindstones? Etc., etc. That is why God invented the papacy and the inspiration of the Holy Ghost to guarantee authoritative teaching as to Scripture.

Pope St. Pius X (1907) in Pascendi Domenici Gregis and Lamentabile Sane taught with ACTUAL authority that the Scriptures are, cover-to-cover, word-for-word, the inerrant word of God. He, not you, had the authority to teach that. He, not you, had the authority to teach the meaning of cripture as did Leo XIII before him and several after him, notable Benedict XV (no hero on other grounds), Pius XI, Pius XII, John XXIII, Paul VI, John Paul I, John Paul II and now Benedict XVI and hundreds of popes starting with Peter and continuing to Leo XIII as well. They and not Schmidlap the Insignificant will authoritatively teach (not spoon feed) the Faithful the meaning of Scripture, whether they disagree with you or not. Their teachings will be remembered as yours will not.

If what I have supposedly lost is some delusion that I would have the authority to interpret Scripture, I never had such a presumption. See also #213.

Also, "reformed" preachiness and churchladiness brings out the worst in adequately catechized Roman Catholics.

214 posted on 05/27/2005 12:08:36 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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