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To: annalex
You did not point it out to me. Bishops ordain and defrock priests as is clear from Titus and Timothy, and priests effect sacraments, as is clear form James. Also, bishops come from the ranks of priests and can effect sacraments. Where do you think bishops come from?

Titus and Timothy made no mention of defrocking priests at all. James 5 14 and 15 says absolutely nothing about priests either. You are so accustomed to seeing the word confession and relating that to the RC priesthood you can't seem to see that there is no mention of a priesthood there in James.

224 posted on 05/27/2005 1:21:05 PM PDT by biblewonk (Socialism isn't all bad.)
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To: biblewonk
Regarding priests in 1 Timothy (note disposition of accusations against priests; we can argue if the public rebuking amounted to defrocking):
17 Let the priests that rule well be esteemed worthy of double honour: especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.

18 For the scripture saith: Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn: and, The labourer is worthy of his reward.

19 Against a priest receive not an accusation, but under two or three witnesses.

20 Them that sin reprove before all that the rest also may have fear.

This is ordainment of priests in Titus 1:
5 For this cause I left thee in Crete: that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting and shouldest ordain priests in every city, as I also appointed thee:
This is the priests needed to perform the annointing of the sick in James 5:
14 Is any man sick among you? Let him bring in the priests of the church and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord.

228 posted on 05/27/2005 1:59:00 PM PDT by annalex
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