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To: bornacatholic

This is not to pile on, but I want to revisit this problem of the haughty indult priest whose uncharity drove you to the N.O. I'm sure there must be many such. But we both know the corresponding disdain that's at least as common on the N.O. side of the equation -- more probably, since most diocesan indult priests also celebrate the N.O. routinely and can't disparage it without making fools and hyprocrites of themselves -- yet I don't sense that for that reason you'll be ricocheting back into the old rite anytime soon.

This is not to charge you with hypocrisy; you are entitled to your preference of whatever licit rite is available to you. But maybe it can't hurt to observe that the Church gets a great deal of her work done by silly fools, and that unlike protestants, Catholics are keenly aware that their liturgy is about a great deal more than the charm and learning of its ministers. In your choice of rite, I encourage you to discern some ecclesial or sacramental impulse larger than the self-regarding and spiritually risky stance of purely personal criteria, whether positive ("they have a great organist") or negative ("that priest is a jerk").


53 posted on 06/06/2005 3:03:05 PM PDT by Romulus (Der Inn fließt in den Tiber.)
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To: Romulus
This is not to pile on, but I want to revisit this problem of the haughty indult priest whose uncharity drove you to the N.O. I'm sure there must be many such. But we both know the corresponding disdain that's at least as common on the N.O. side of the equation -- more probably, since most diocesan indult priests also celebrate the N.O. routinely and can't disparage it without making fools and hyprocrites of themselves -- yet I don't sense that for that reason you'll be ricocheting back into the old rite anytime soon.

*excellent observation. While I prefer the Pauline Rite (for many reasons), were Pope Benedict, our sweet Jesus on Earth, to make the 1962 Roman Missal normative, I 'd happily decamp there and thank the Good Lord, as I do everyday, that I have easy access to the Sacraments. To me, we have always had only one Mass; different Rites; different Liturgies in which the action of Jesus is anchored; but one Mass since the Last Supper.

I'll admit I am a lucky man. My Pastor's Masses are solemn, serious and authentic.

This is not to charge you with hypocrisy; you are entitled to your preference of whatever licit rite is available to you. But maybe it can't hurt to observe that the Church gets a great deal of her work done by silly fools, and that unlike protestants, Catholics are keenly aware that their liturgy is about a great deal more than the charm and learning of its ministers. In your choice of rite, I encourage you to discern some ecclesial or sacramental impulse larger than the self-regarding and spiritually risky stance of purely personal criteria, whether positive ("they have a great organist") or negative ("that priest is a jerk").

* :) Well, if that isn't already clear from what I have written in these threads then I will have to do better. Where I used to live I considered Sunday Mass a virtual Calvary due to the personal choices, contrary to the Living Magisterium, made by the various Pauline Rite priests saying the Masses. The Liturgy was the personal playground of prideful priests yet the Mass was of incalcuable value because of the action of Jesus.

60 posted on 06/07/2005 3:25:04 AM PDT by bornacatholic (It must be tough being a traditionalist what with all the correcting of HM Church it demands)
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