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2 posted on 07/04/2005 5:58:56 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema

When we click on the link to your website, we are brought to a page that features a picture entitled "a Papal Nuncio enjoys a laugh with Joseph Goebbels."

Thanks for sharing your anti-Roman Catholicism with us.

This anti-Catholicism puts all of your recent postings in true perspective, and I'm grateful that you're so open about it.

You know, I remember seeing a photo, from 1965 I think, in which Pope Paul VI got up from the papal throne in Saint Peter's Basilica and hurried down to meet the delegation sent from the Ecumenical Patriarch Athenagoras (perhaps at the time that the mutual excommunications of 1054 were rescinded, an act I'm sure you would consider to be invalid).

To the horror of some of his aides, Pope Paul knelt down and kissed their feet as a prelude to offering them the kiss of peace.

I guess that, for people like yourself, the Pope should have kissed something else.


4 posted on 07/04/2005 6:38:42 AM PDT by TaxachusettsMan
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To: MarMema

It also helps to know a little of the personal history of the author, Fr. Cognetti.

Fr. Robert Taft, S.J. of Rome's "Russicum" puts it very well, if a little bluntly:

"There are over 300,000 Catholics in European Russia, 65,000 of them in Moscow alone. To say that a church doesn’t have a right to erect a diocese there is absurd, especially when the Orthodox plant metropolitans wherever they want. Let’s take the example of Austria. Vienna has been a Catholic see since the first millennium, yet the Russian Orthodox have a metropolitan, not just “in” Vienna but “of” Vienna … that’s his title. Yet there probably aren’t 5,000 Russian Orthodox in the whole of Austria. Fair is fair. Is Moscow their canonical territory? Yes, but guess whose canonical territory Vienna is. They come up with the argument, we believe in the principle of “one bishop, one city.” Want to guess how many Orthodox bishops there are in New York? I mean, for God’s sake. The problem is, nobody talks to them like that because nobody knows what I know. Catholics hear this stuff and say, “Oh, gee, aren’t we awful.” Give me a break."

"What (Cardinal) Kasper can hope for is a renewal of the dialogue. What he needs to do is to reassure Moscow once again is that the Catholic church regards the Russian Orthodox church as a sister church, that we are there to take care of Catholics, not to fish in their pond. We’ve said this a million times. (Metropolitan) Kirill has been making some good noises lately. He’s said the dialogue has never been interrupted, which is true, and that while the official position of both churches is that we shouldn’t be fishing in one another’s waters, but there are clergy on both sides who don’t respect those norms. There are Orthodox clergy who proselytize among Catholics, we know that for a fact. The Russian Orthodox opened up a parish in Palermo! All the Russians in Palermo you could fit into a telephone booth. Who’s the priest? He’s a converted Catholic. When it was opened up, in the journal of the Moscow patriarchate, it stated quite clearly that this is a step toward recovering the Byzantine heritage of Sicily. Furthermore, there’s a Greek monastery in Calabria that’s also proselytizing among the Catholics. There are loose cannons all over the place."


6 posted on 07/04/2005 7:17:00 AM PDT by TaxachusettsMan
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"Patriarcha Universalis" -- they never did learn how to translate Greek correctly, did they? Amazing. And look at the fallout their sloppy Greek has created!


11 posted on 07/04/2005 8:37:04 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: MarMema

http://catholictradition.blogspot.com/2005_01_01_catholictradition_archive.html


23 posted on 07/04/2005 12:19:29 PM PDT by bornacatholic (I love my brothers and sisters in the Orthodox Church but polemics ain't theology or history)
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