[dsc]

"However the state has no right to demand that kids go to school because it will make them "good citizens" or economically productive."

If we say it does, it does. We are the state. If we want to require service of young people to make them better members of society, that is quite within the constitution.

[Romulus]

If we say it does, it does. We are the state.

And the source of all human rights, according to you. This is what passes for conservatism these days.

We have nothing further to discuss. Words fail me.

[TradicalRC]

If we say it does, it does. We are the state.

And if the state becomes a communist oligarchy and demands our allegiance or a lifetime of "community service"? L'etat C'est moi?