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To: kosta50

Excursus. "If I need grammatical advice I will ask for one." Insert comma after "advice" and replace "one" with "it".

I am not an apostate. I am a cradle Roman Catholic with very good friends in several of the Eastern Catholic Churches.

You and Graves together provided us with these edifying words:

YOU: "Personally, I think 'pittiful' (sic) is a much better term for these churches."

GRAVES: "Just my personal opinion but how about, pitiful, pathetic & perfidious?"

You are certainly entitled to your opinion. Just as I am entitled to point out when I think that opinion is snide and uncharitable. It is certainly true that the Eastern Catholic Churches are trying to reverse centuries of latinization. You can make that point without succumbing to the temptation of being your own snide self by adding "so-called." To you, perhaps, they are "so-called," just as I might well consider the Serbian Church a "so-called" Orthodox Church. But it would be snide and uncharitable of me to refer to your Church that way.

The fact remains that both you and Graves were snide and uncharitable in your remarks. After reading Alexy II's nonsense about the Kazan icon, I'm beginning to wonder if that isn't a genetic component of "pure Orthodoxy."


24 posted on 07/23/2005 5:39:33 AM PDT by TaxachusettsMan
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To: TaxachusettsMan; Graves
You probably wanted to write "insert a comma..." but never mind.

Just as I am entitled to point out when I think that opinion is snide and uncharitable

Truth hurts. What is really an "Eastern Catholic" but a minority, and oddity in the Roman Catholic communion? They were useful at one time; they were latinized and they may become a bargaining chip -- once again. They are stuck between Roman Catholicism and Orthodoxy. They are neither. Their theology is Orthodox. But their heart is not. In the RCC they are a low singe digit percentage figure. That is pitiful. Nothing uncharitable or snide about it; just sad.

36 posted on 07/23/2005 8:35:30 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: TaxachusettsMan; jec1ny
You can make that point without succumbing to the temptation of being your own snide self by adding "so-called."

The "so-called" is not snide or uncharitable either. It is confusing. The Orthodox Church is Catholic and Apostolic, and it is Eastern. How can there be "another" Eastern Catholic church? The same goes for the so-called "Greek-Catholic" church in Ukraine. It is not Greek, for sure. And the Greek Orthodox Church is fully Catholic, so what is a "Greek-Catholic" church? The term "Uniate" leaves no ambiguity as to what churches wer are talking about.

Perhaps you need to work on your sensitivities and not read into things

I might well consider the Serbian Church a "so-called" Orthodox Church. But it would be snide and uncharitable of me to refer to your Church that way

You certainly may! But, I hope you realize that you will be laughed at by the Orthodox as well as the Roman Catholics.

39 posted on 07/23/2005 8:56:13 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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