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Church Renewal Advocate: Politics May Cost NCC Its Conservative Constituents
AgapePress ^ | August 9, 2005 | By Jim Brown

Posted on 08/09/2005 10:19:04 AM PDT by kharaku

Church Renewal Advocate: Politics May Cost NCC Its Conservative Constituents By Jim Brown August 9, 2005

(AgapePress) - A spokesman for a church reform group believes the recent decision by the Antiochian Orthodox Church to leave the National Council of Churches (NCC) may prompt the larger Russian and Greek Orthodox churches to follow suit.

Late last month, the Antiochian Orthodox Christian Archdiocese of North America became the first denomination in several years to quit the NCC. Antiochian Orthodox spokespersons cited concerns over the NCC's liberal stance on homosexuality and the group's political outspokenness as among the church's reasons for leaving.

Mark Tooley is with the Institute on Religion and Democracy, an ecumenical alliance of Christians working to reform their churches' witness in society. With regard to the Antiochian Orthodox Church's departure from the NCC, Tooley says the handwriting was on the wall.

"Eastern Orthodox churches are still very traditional theologically and on moral issues," the IRD spokesman points out. "And, interestingly, although they tend to be fairly wealthy churches, they give no money to the National Council of Churches."

In fact, Tooley says, "There have always been hints that perhaps the Eastern Orthodox would pull out." He believes the recent move by the Antiochian Orthodox will likely have a ripple effect on larger Orthodox denominations that are fed up with what many see as the NCC's left-wing political activism.

The NCC's "primary concern is politics, not churches," the Christian reform advocate contends. He says the head of the National Council of Churches, Bob Edgar, "has emphasized his outreach to new constituencies, especially Catholics and Evangelicals." But as the NCC receives less funding from its member denominations and increasingly relies on support from liberal foundations, political advocacy groups and direct mail campaigns, Tooley feels Edgar has further accentuated the NCC's liberal political focus in ways unlikely to endear him to the more traditional and conservative Christian denominations.

And if Edgar "starts to lose even members of his own council, especially the Eastern Orthodox," Tooley notes, "that certainly is going to undermine his claims of being able to broaden the National Council's constituency."

The ripples the IRD spokesman is predicting may have already begun. The Russian Orthodox Church recently studied a paper urging its withdrawal from the National Council of Churches. Russian Orthodox bishops plan to discuss the issue further this fall.


TOPICS: Mainline Protestant; Orthodox Christian
KEYWORDS: catholic; ncc; orthodox; religion; russia; schism
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More good news!
1 posted on 08/09/2005 10:19:05 AM PDT by kharaku
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To: kharaku

"PLEASE yank our tax exemption!"

2 posted on 08/09/2005 10:21:49 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: kharaku; aomagrat; GipperCT; MarMema; crazykatz; don-o; JosephW; lambo; MoJoWork_n; newberger; ...
An Orthodox ping for a domino effect!
3 posted on 08/09/2005 10:21:56 AM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: FormerLib

Ping for the Lord!


4 posted on 08/09/2005 10:24:17 AM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: kharaku

The Orthodox Church in America (OCA) is considering this too. My priest was just at the Toronto for the All American Council and specifically mentioned to us all the Antiochian action and the OCA's thinking about it upon his return.


5 posted on 08/09/2005 10:25:14 AM PDT by Doug Loss
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To: Doug Loss

The OCA parish I go to hasn't mentioned anything about this but I hope and pray it's in their plans.


6 posted on 08/09/2005 10:26:19 AM PDT by kharaku (G3 (http://www.cobolsoundsystem.com/mp3s/unreleased/evewasanape.mp3))
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To: kharaku

So far as I know it isn't policy in the OCA yet, but was a topic of discussion at the All-American Council. We can only let them know our feelings about it and hope they decide correctly.


7 posted on 08/09/2005 10:28:54 AM PDT by Doug Loss
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To: Doug Loss

We could always freep the contacts page on oca.org...


8 posted on 08/09/2005 10:31:43 AM PDT by kharaku (G3 (http://www.cobolsoundsystem.com/mp3s/unreleased/evewasanape.mp3))
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To: martin_fierro
REMOTE LINKING IMAGES
MAKES BABY JESUS CRY

Oops...

9 posted on 08/09/2005 10:32:19 AM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Trad-Ang Ping: I read the dreck so you don't have to || Iran Azadi)
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To: sionnsar
FEH.

Here you go.

10 posted on 08/09/2005 10:34:11 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: martin_fierro
Odd. It's being redirected. The link is:
http://www.churchsigngenerator.com/images/churchsigns/church_and_state.jpg

I see:
http://www.aboyandhiscomputer.com/nohotlink.gif

11 posted on 08/09/2005 10:36:18 AM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Trad-Ang Ping: I read the dreck so you don't have to || Iran Azadi)
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To: martin_fierro
I usually post images in:

http://www.imageshack.us/

12 posted on 08/09/2005 10:37:12 AM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Trad-Ang Ping: I read the dreck so you don't have to || Iran Azadi)
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To: sionnsar

Eh, ferget it.

It wasn't that funny anyway.

< |:)~


13 posted on 08/09/2005 10:38:41 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Doug Loss

I know that Fr. Alexander Webster introduced a resolution to have the OCA withdraw from the NCC at the 12th All American Council. The official response was that the Synod was already looking into this and to please be patient with them.

Fr. Alexander wasn't at this most recent Council as he has been activated and deployed with his unit (keep him in your prayers).

I've no doubt that the Synod views withdrawal as a sort of defeat but we are past the time when their patience with the NCC should be at an end.


14 posted on 08/09/2005 10:39:07 AM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: martin_fierro
It wasn't that funny anyway.

Actually, I found the blurb about Remote linking makes baby Jesus cry even funnier.

15 posted on 08/09/2005 10:40:19 AM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: FormerLib

Well, you know the old saying about the Orthodox church and speed... ;) Anything that happens within 400 years after it's first proposed is precipitous...


16 posted on 08/09/2005 10:44:04 AM PDT by Doug Loss
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To: kharaku
Contact info for local OCA dioceses:

http://www.oca.org/CUContact.asp?SID=20
17 posted on 08/09/2005 10:49:30 AM PDT by kharaku (G3 (http://www.cobolsoundsystem.com/mp3s/unreleased/evewasanape.mp3))
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To: kharaku; Cronos

Good, run, run away from these evil humanists in sheeps clothing.


18 posted on 08/09/2005 10:50:29 AM PDT by jb6 ( Free Haghai Sophia! Crusade!)
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To: Doug Loss
Sounds like a lead in for the old "How many Orthodox does it take to change a light bulb?" joke.
19 posted on 08/09/2005 1:19:40 PM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: FormerLib

Ah yes, we should hope for a domino effect where the NCC is concerned. My Church is OCA, and I'll keep an ear open for new developments. I'd love to see complete Orthodox withdrawal from this lib organization, but these things take time...


20 posted on 08/09/2005 2:50:12 PM PDT by infidel dog (nearer my God to thee....)
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