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To: TBP
And he's right. Jesus thought so, too, if you read him. But too many "Christians" insist on taking the other tack -- and declare you "unholy" and "damend" if you don't take that tack too.

The temptation to be a "holier than thou" person is too great for some. What they don't realize is, that the church is God's family, one big disfunctional, sinful family, saved by GRACE. That kind of message would welcome people into salvation far more than "repent you evil, worthless sinner!!!!!!"

That's one of the reasons that more of the world is not Christian.

I heard a great, GREAT message done once, on the source of all the great revivals in history. NOT coincidentally, they didn't start by someone screaming "REPENT!" in people's faces. They DID start with just a few people understanding that "the just shall live by FAITH", and "the GOODNESS OF GOD leads us to repentance", not punishment. When God blesses me, I turn around, believe me. I've seen it over and over again in my own life...

70 posted on 08/11/2005 11:42:47 AM PDT by gamarob1 (.)
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To: gamarob1

Jesus was able to teach St.Paul and some of His close discipiles how to take up the cross daily (or die daily - the man body with arms stretched resembles the cross)but Jesus is not able to teach any of us how to rise above body consciousness now.Why?

This is because Jesus is not the only Saviour sent by God to help mankind. If He were the only Saviour what are the fates of those born before Him. He told us He was not the only Saviour.He said:

As long as I am in the world, I am the Light of the world.(St.John 9:5)

St. Luke likewise echoed the above point when He said:

As He spoke by the mouth of His Holy Prophets which has been since the world began.(St.Luke 1:70)


80 posted on 08/12/2005 1:42:22 PM PDT by TBP
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