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To: sojourner
Heaven forbid! However, I was kinda disappointed when I went to mass on Ascension Day and that feast wasn't being celebrated.

This traditional Lutheran still can't figure out how celebrating Ascension on the Seventh Sunday of Easter is still forty days. Forty three equals forty? This new math amazes me.

13 posted on 08/14/2005 3:50:21 PM PDT by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
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To: lightman
This traditional Lutheran still can't figure out how celebrating Ascension on the Seventh Sunday of Easter is still forty days. Forty three equals forty? This new math amazes me.

???

'fraid I don't follow you.

We in the RCC celebrated the 13th Sunday after Pentacost. Where to you reckon 7th Sunday?

Perhaps the Eastern observation?

24 posted on 08/14/2005 6:11:14 PM PDT by kstewskis ("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big..." Jerry Fletcher)
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To: lightman

As a traditional Lutheran you might appreciate the plight of traditional Catholics these days. Traditionally, Ascension Thursday (sometimes called "Ascension Day") is always on the Thursday following the 5th Sunday after Easter (or "Resurrection Sunday"). In the count, the first Sunday in included because Jesus rose in the early morning. 5x7+1=36, the number of days at the 5th Sunday. Plus four more takes you to Thursday at 40 days after Easter.

Traditionally, Jesus ascended into heaven on a Thursday, just as He rose from the dead on a Sunday.

But this is talking about Ascension Thursday, while this thread is talking about the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary, traditionally commemorated on August 15th, whichever day in the week that falls on, even Sunday. This year it falls on Monday, but a few years ago the American bishops decided to make Monday and Saturday observance optional in some such cases. Traditional Catholics don't look for ways of escaping the traditional norms, so we show up for Mass on Monday like Catholics would have done before the recent convenience-related revisions.

If Monday and Saturday are too inconvenient, why stop there? Tuesday and Friday might be too inconvenient next year, and after that, Wednesday and Thursday might suddenly rise to the modern norm of inconvenience. After that, well, what's so special about Sunday? The logical end excludes all seven days of the week as too inconvenient for attendance at Mass.


56 posted on 08/16/2005 8:57:35 AM PDT by donbosco74 (When someone has the sensus Catholicus, they notice without being told.)
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